Exactly, it's quantity over quality. It's just rubbish content.
Scotty’s at it again.
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Exactly, it's quantity over quality. It's just rubbish content.
This board is littered with folks that get all confused between "good enough" and "better". Some convince themselves that just because most any oil is "good enough", that there are no better oils. This can't be true from a technical nor probability standpoint. Throw 5 oil formulas together with random bases and additives and one will be better than the rest out of pure coincidence. Factor in money spent on R&D, company philosophies, management styles, target market, etc and you do indeed have "better" oils.
I'm not saying us internet geniuses will ever know which ones are better for any given scenario, but there will be differences, which means there will be better, not so great, good enough, etc. I'm not saying the differences are big enough to matter either, although science would say that the more miles you rack up, the bigger a difference it makes. All we can do is look at the PDS and decide what parts of the marketing we want to give credence to, and maybe discuss how one oil is quieter than another. Is it the brand? HTHS? Noack? Good luck!
I'm not saying us internet geniuses will ever know which ones are better for any given scenario, but there will be differences, which means there will be better, not so great, good enough, etc. I'm not saying the differences are big enough to matter either, although science would say that the more miles you rack up, the bigger a difference it makes. All we can do is look at the PDS and decide what parts of the marketing we want to give credence to, and maybe discuss how one oil is quieter than another. Is it the brand? HTHS? Noack? Good luck!
I'd say that in general that is kind of true. However, plenty of stuck piston ring Toyota engines, failed timing/balancer chain BMW, GM, Ford, VW and entire engine failures from Hyundai/Kia say otherwise. Not to mention non-failure related problems like improper cam timing due to chain/guide wear.
It's very clear that today's vehicles are exceedingly expensive. Why add the very, very real risk of a $4500 timing chain job before 100K miles by continuing to circulate fuel diluted 0W-whatever, oil changed at 12,000 mile intervals? Or the risk of those low tension piston rings wearing just enough to not seal anymore, cough, cough, Toyota Prius.
He’s not wrong. If it meets the required spec for the vehicle, it’s as good as anything else. These days your beater probably has better oil than the people buying Porsches that really can’t afford them. I see newer Porsches with Dayton tires at Jiffy Lube getting the coupon special oil change.
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Mobil 1 EP 0W-20 vs. Castrol GTX 0W-20 - oh yeah, they're "equal" alright.
Does it meet the same specs?
What Scotty said is correct.
Not trying to defend him.
I use Supertech which is WM brand and the car/truck have not blown up yet.
So what is the different between Supertech and OReilly brand if it meets the spec?
Will it affect the longevity of the engine? Nobody knows since most of us probably never do a failure analysis by opening the engine and measure the internal moving parts.
The topic is meeting the spec, not the longevity of oil, shear-ability, VII, etc.
Now, it is up to the user what to buy.
FWIW, sometimes the part store brand is not cheaper than the popular famous brand.
He probably does not mention that in the video.
Some user may want to do Extended OCI, so obviously at this point there are differences but the spec is still the same and it meets the spec.
Now, there are some store off brand out there that is not meeting the spec and still labeled to meet the spec.
That is not what he is talking about, though.
Not trying to defend him.
I use Supertech which is WM brand and the car/truck have not blown up yet.
So what is the different between Supertech and OReilly brand if it meets the spec?
Will it affect the longevity of the engine? Nobody knows since most of us probably never do a failure analysis by opening the engine and measure the internal moving parts.
The topic is meeting the spec, not the longevity of oil, shear-ability, VII, etc.
Now, it is up to the user what to buy.
FWIW, sometimes the part store brand is not cheaper than the popular famous brand.
He probably does not mention that in the video.
Some user may want to do Extended OCI, so obviously at this point there are differences but the spec is still the same and it meets the spec.
Now, there are some store off brand out there that is not meeting the spec and still labeled to meet the spec.
That is not what he is talking about, though.
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I watch a decent number of car / repair videos as well and every so often they'll recommend his to me but if you don't watch them, they usually fall away.
I recall one where he put brake fluid in a fuel tank and ran or tried to run the car.It looks like quality content to me
We don't know if it's as good as anything else. All we know is it meets the specs like anything else.
I want to see a Bitog member(s) post some oil advise video(s).
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Well, entertainment value only goes so far before stupidity takes over.
It meets minimum specifications. A company like ExxonMobil strives to give its customers something extra in the form of a Premium Product. Not everyone bothers to read their PDS and MSDS documents, or most consumers don't even know what they are or how to look them up, however, they know Mobil 1 by reputation.
Bingo!
Analytics show he makes about $1.5m/year. Not too shabby from my meager perspective.
I need to work on my video skills and sub par advice
Hate to burst a bubble, but he is 100% correct.
If your car calls for SP rated oil, and makes no mention of any other required certifications, then the cheapest SP rated oil is just fine.
If you car calls for Chrysler MS6395 rated oil, then find one on the shelf that’s meets that spec. It’s really that simple.
If your car calls for SP rated oil, and makes no mention of any other required certifications, then the cheapest SP rated oil is just fine.
If you car calls for Chrysler MS6395 rated oil, then find one on the shelf that’s meets that spec. It’s really that simple.
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Then hanging around here is more than likely pointless.
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He's clickbait.
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You could also get an oil that exceeds them.. this is why cars don't explode when your API SG spec'd engine gets some API SP oil.
Of course an oil can be better than another one, Scotty Kilmer is an idiot and everyone has their own "favorite" I'm liking High Performance Lubricants products these days.
If it was another product, criticism would be polite but Scotty Kilmer has been screaming at the camera for a long time, he has a cult like following.
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