You do have a point. Maybe he'd be able to pick apart the EV6 from afar like he did the Teslas.
So I've want to buy a $60K electric Kia...
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You do have a point. Maybe he'd be able to pick apart the EV6 from afar like he did the Teslas.
Me either.
edyvw
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No it’s not. Luxury means that, luxury, not how much product is sold for.
People are buying Corolla GR $20k over MSRP, yet, it is FAR from luxury vehicle. Same goes for Sequoia.
I don't think that's what anyone was saying. The Kia is more expensive than the comparable Tesla. It's how the brand is perceived by average people. If you asked an average person regardless of cost what would be considered a more luxurious product, a Kia or Tesla, what would they say? It's a dumb question because both have a wide range of costs, but it's how the non car enthusiast market would think of the two.
edyvw
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I don’t think Tesla is luxury vehicle. Luxury vehicles don’t have such plastic, quality etc.
They might charge like luxury vehicle, but price was never determining factor of luxury. It is what is inside.
People perceive bcs. Tesla is always parked next to two other, ICE vehicles, usually gas guzzlers. That is why EV won’t become mainstream for a long time, bcs. average family wants practicality, flexibility etc.
Tesla is vanity.
Good job projecting man. Totally affects the way I live parking my Tesla by my gas guzzling GTI.
edyvw
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With how many kids? Do you guys take road trips each year, 2-3,000 miles or fly?Good job projecting man. Totally affects the way I live parking my Tesla by my gas guzzling GTI.
4WD
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If that doesn't show money doesn't buy taste in one picture I don't know what does.
edyvw
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Is that alligator or they are catching those pythons like crazy?
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Wow! Decorated by Stevie Wonder with access to the clearance bin at Fabricland!
$60k for a Kia; an EV no less. The junkiest least practical thing on the market. 
Based on a totally irrelevant real-world "test," little more than a glossy marketing brochure?!
Not just no, but a laughing walking away hard no. $60 THOUSAND DOLLARS!? To drive a Kia that's quick off the line? I truly cannot stop laughing.
Go get yourself a nice $10,000 used Lexus LS400 and thank me later.
Based on a totally irrelevant real-world "test," little more than a glossy marketing brochure?!
Not just no, but a laughing walking away hard no. $60 THOUSAND DOLLARS!? To drive a Kia that's quick off the line? I truly cannot stop laughing.
Go get yourself a nice $10,000 used Lexus LS400 and thank me later.
Does anyone remember the original 2002tii? Not especially pretty, kind of plain actually, both inside and outside. A bit expensive. But excellent handling and lots of go. It was considered "an engineer's car". And they're still worth a lot 50 years later.
I think the description fits the Tesla Model 3 quite well too. Except for the value 50 years later. We'll have to wait a while for that.
I think the description fits the Tesla Model 3 quite well too. Except for the value 50 years later. We'll have to wait a while for that.
What will your laptop be worth in 20 years. That gives you an idea of what a Tesla will be worth in 20 years. Planned obsolescence. It's built into these designs. I'm tellin' ya'll. The market for these EVs is going to be extremely fickle and have knat-like attention spans. Unlike the high interest in even anemic performing ICE from the 1970s that are highly valued due to style and soul and very easy to maintain, for which people still express extreme loyalty for those cars, these EVs will be literally thrown out and cast aside the instant their computers are slow, won't snych, aren't "cool," etc.
Name a single computer related product that has increased in value over time. There are none. All computer related products go to zero very fast. Now add a battery pack that costs as much as the car. First battery replacement at year 15, car value is zero.
I don't really see anything to nitpick on it except for range.
That LS400 won't even make it out of my driveway. The EV6 GT will. Further, the LS400 will suck fuel like no tomorrow. I went to Autotrader and found a $12k LS400. It was a 1999 with 65K miles. It had a 4.0L V8, and the EPA rates it at 19mpg combined. It requires 91 octane/Premium. The current price of Premium 91 octane where I live is $3.44/gal at Wal-Mart. I drive 2500mi/month. So even IF the LS400 would physically locomote from my house (it won't, as it's RWD), it would cost me $452/mo for the "privilege" of driving it. Stack oil changes and preventative maintenance on top of a 20 year old luxury car, and you're easily looking at an amortized $600/mo operating cost. The EV6 GT? It will cost about $85/mo in electricity, and 8K mi services are about $100 on it. In no way is a used LS400 an appealing choice to me. I cannot stop laughing.$60k for a Kia; an EV no less. The junkiest least practical thing on the market.
Based on a totally irrelevant real-world "test," little more than a glossy marketing brochure?!
Not just no, but a laughing walking away hard no. $60 THOUSAND DOLLARS!? To drive a Kia that's quick off the line? I truly cannot stop laughing.
Go get yourself a nice $10,000 used Lexus LS400 and thank me later.
If you think "able to get me where I need to go" and "super cheap operating cost" is impractical...why on earth are you suggesting a POS lexus that can't even get up my driveway and sucks fuel to the tune of half a grand a month? Absolutely bonkers.
...and that's okay. Driving an EV saves me about $5K/year in fuel. That's $96K saved in 20 years, lol! But I presume it likely won't last 20 years. That would be 600k miles. So let's just say it lasts until my warranty runs out, which is 150k miles. It will have saved me $25k in gasoline, at TODAY'S prices. That's assuming that the very second it turns 150,001 miles, it just craps out completely, I will assume that it's worth at LEAST $15,000, which is less even than these things sell for salvage, so I will have paid $25K (interest and all...) for the joy of driving around in something that hits harder than a Lambo Urus. I'm good with that!
I can agree with that. I just don't think of Tesla as luxury vehicle. They have power, and price, and electronic wizardry, and that's all they have for luxury components.
