dnewton3
Staff member
TSBs are not as severe in terms of concern as recalls; that's true. But there certainly are problems in some of the "design, engineering or manufacturing" topics in the TSB list. Let's not make a mole-hill out of the mountain ...
Things are not operating as they should, or have the potential to fail. And while some of the things on the list are mere annoyances (radio head unit updates, for example), there are others that would indicate significant concern:
- 3 for suspension issues (noises and hard ride, appearances of misalignment)
- 2 for malfunctioning gages
- 1 for an EPS issue (malfunction light)
- 3 for hesitation, surging and poor acceleration issues
- 1 for engine noise complaint about "pop/clunk" at start up
All these represent real concerns. They may not manifest into failure of the vehicle, but they do represent potential failures, and/or misleading information leading to uncertainty in use.
* If the oil pressure gage doesn't work right, that would lead to the driver not feeling comfortable in seeing high/low pressure and subsequently shutting the vehicle down.
* If the fuel gages doesn't work right, it can lead to unnecessary trips to the gas station, or worse, running out of fuel on your morning commute.
* If the engine hesitates or doesn't accelerate right, that could cause an accident when you expect the vehicle to move properly through an intersection, etc. Hesitation and surging lead to a very uncomfortable sense; a lack of confidence of reliability.
* And who expects an $80k vehicle engine to "pop/clunk" when you fire it up in the morning; that's not disconcerting in any way, is it???
17 TSBs is not a good roll-out record, no matter how one wants to look at it. It's unlikely that all Tundras have all these issues; far more likely that they only have a few of them in any one vehicle. But the long list (and magnitude of some of the issues) gives an impression of this truck "not being fully cooked before coming out of the oven"; like it wasnt fully vetted before being released to the public. Each one of these TSBs represents a trip to the dealer to get it fixed; a trip which takes time/money out of the day for the owners of the vehicles. Some of these things represent operational concerns which could lead to a poor decision being made based on improper intel.
There's no need to make this into an over-reaction; these are not IDHL topics. But they are none-the-less significant enough to warrant concern, and certainly do illicit a feeling of immaturity of the product at release.
Things are not operating as they should, or have the potential to fail. And while some of the things on the list are mere annoyances (radio head unit updates, for example), there are others that would indicate significant concern:
- 3 for suspension issues (noises and hard ride, appearances of misalignment)
- 2 for malfunctioning gages
- 1 for an EPS issue (malfunction light)
- 3 for hesitation, surging and poor acceleration issues
- 1 for engine noise complaint about "pop/clunk" at start up
All these represent real concerns. They may not manifest into failure of the vehicle, but they do represent potential failures, and/or misleading information leading to uncertainty in use.
* If the oil pressure gage doesn't work right, that would lead to the driver not feeling comfortable in seeing high/low pressure and subsequently shutting the vehicle down.
* If the fuel gages doesn't work right, it can lead to unnecessary trips to the gas station, or worse, running out of fuel on your morning commute.
* If the engine hesitates or doesn't accelerate right, that could cause an accident when you expect the vehicle to move properly through an intersection, etc. Hesitation and surging lead to a very uncomfortable sense; a lack of confidence of reliability.
* And who expects an $80k vehicle engine to "pop/clunk" when you fire it up in the morning; that's not disconcerting in any way, is it???
17 TSBs is not a good roll-out record, no matter how one wants to look at it. It's unlikely that all Tundras have all these issues; far more likely that they only have a few of them in any one vehicle. But the long list (and magnitude of some of the issues) gives an impression of this truck "not being fully cooked before coming out of the oven"; like it wasnt fully vetted before being released to the public. Each one of these TSBs represents a trip to the dealer to get it fixed; a trip which takes time/money out of the day for the owners of the vehicles. Some of these things represent operational concerns which could lead to a poor decision being made based on improper intel.
There's no need to make this into an over-reaction; these are not IDHL topics. But they are none-the-less significant enough to warrant concern, and certainly do illicit a feeling of immaturity of the product at release.
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