Valvoline R&P Oil Burner Test Results

[ltslimjim]

In the last 10 years I have looked at perhaps 30 used cars. I check them out for myself and when my kids need a new [used] car. I look under the oil cap to see some part of the cams/head. All the cars have been remarkably clean and shiny inside. Invariably when I ask about oil changes they answer they just take it to the local oil change shop every 5.000 miles or so. This would be just bulk oil, synthetic or conventional. So in my experience this cheap oil does a good job at regular intervals. I haven't seen a car with dirty engine internals in 20 years or more. Maybe I'm just lucky.

I think that maintenance is sufficient if the vehicle is driven regularly and not short tripped. Also, if the engine is easy on the oil compared to a turbo charged 4 banger with fuel dilution.

 

[Brian123]

I would rather have a used car that did 6-10k intervals but with a higher quality synthetic, as opposed to one that had 3k intervals with bulk oil. The 6-10k OCI engine in this case would be much cleaner inside.

6K with Mobil 1 or maybe Pennzoil Platinum, 10K is pushing it! JMO

 

[Patman]

6K with Mobil 1 or maybe Pennzoil Platinum, 10K is pushing it! JMO

I don’t think 10k is pushing it under the right circumstances with a good oil. HPL and Amsoil could handle 10k in a lot of engines, especially highway driven ones. I’ve been doing 10k intervals in my Civic with various oils.

 

[Brian123]

I don’t think 10k is pushing it under the right circumstances with a good oil. HPL and Amsoil could handle 10k in a lot of engines, especially highway driven ones. I’ve been doing 10k intervals in my Civic with various oils.

I forgot about HPL and Amsoil SS for a 10K OCI.

 

[ChrisD46]

I like that VR&P 5W30 has a HTHS of 3.2 ! That is close to the M1 5W30 ESP territory of 3.5 .

 

[Glenda W.]

Update #3: 3,200 miles and about 1/4 quart low. ESP 0W30

 

[martinq]

Update #3: 3,200 miles and about 1/4 quart low. ESP 0W30
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It that normal for this car?

 

[tired]

Wow. Would not have expected that to return so quickly.

Edit: I see it was actually down to 3/4 quart over 5000 miles after 4 rounds on VRP. I thought it had resolved.

 

[Glenda W.]

Right on track with last R&P oci(maybe slightly better). So things are holding steady and looking good. ESP may even do better deeper into the oci. I’ll report back at 5k miles. Remember pre R&P was 3 quarts in 5k miles.

 

[Glenda W.]

It that normal for this car?

When the car was new it used a 1/4 qt. in 5k miles. A lot report 3/4 qts. in 5-6k.

 

[webfors]

Update #3: 3,200 miles and about 1/4 quart low. ESP 0W30

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Amazing!

Looks like it might be trending even better than your last OCI of VRP. Maybe some (maybe just some) of those VRP OCI’s included natural consumption of VRP by its design… how else does an oil get to ringlands, in sufficient quantity, to CLEAN them

 

[Hohn]

Wax your chain - I'm at 5000km on my chains and they are still good

Gear oil— the thickest you can find— is the best chain lube.

 

[tired]

Update #3: 3,200 miles and about 1/4 quart low. ESP 0W30

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Do you feel that the engine is any noisier with the M1 ESP?

 

[Glenda W.]

Do you feel that the engine is any noisier with the M1 ESP?

Quite the opposite. Especially in Subaru engines which are a rattling mess. Currently have ESP in 8 vehicles I either own or maintain.

 

[tired]

Quite the opposite. Especially in Subaru engines which are a rattling mess. Currently have ESP in 8 vehicles I either own or maintain.

Good to hear! Valvoline has been very quiet for me, and I've heard that from others. I have also heard that M1 is a "noisier" oil as well, but I haven't run it.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

If this VRP does not do the trick, you can always do an OCI with the King from Valvoline. The Valvoline Premium Blue Restore Generation 1 10W-30.

Good luck finding it, and it was over $100/gal when it was in production. That was like 4 years ago. Gen 2 doesn’t seem to be the stellar performer that Gen 1 was from what I’ve read.

 

[Brian123]

Good luck finding it, and it was over $100/gal when it was in production. That was like 4 years ago. Gen 2 doesn’t seem to be the stellar performer that Gen 1 was from what I’ve read.

I do have 2 Gallons of the Gen 1 Oil; there is quite a bit of the Gen 1 stuff out there. There might, just might, be more of the Gen 1 oil out there as opposed to the Gen 2 Oil. I called dealers and they had more of the Gen 1 versus the Gen 2, meaning Cummings Dealers. I had other Cummins Dealers that had no clue about the Oil.

I am going to put a number out there that there is probably about 150 to 200 gallons of the Gen 1 stuff out there.

 

[Glenda W.]

Good to hear! Valvoline has been very quiet for me, and I've heard that from others. I have also heard that M1 is a "noisier" oil as well, but I haven't run it.

Valvoline EP and R&P were both very quiet for 2-3k miles. Lots of M1 variations with lots of different results reported. ESP seems to be my favorite.

I wouldn’t chase the noise reports, it’s very uncontrolled. I left FS 0W40 for Valvoline EP which “may” have been the start of my problems.

 

[Pterostylis]

Valvoline EP and R&P were both very quiet for 2-3k miles. Lots of M1 variations with lots of different results reported. ESP seems to be my favorite.

I’m about 200 mile into my first VRP 10w-40 and so far the top end sounds louder compared to the previous GTX ultraclean 15w-40, Shell HX7 10w-40 and Gulf Western 10w-30.

 

[jetman]

I do have 2 Gallons of the Gen 1 Oil; there is quite a bit of the Gen 1 stuff out there. There might, just might, be more of the Gen 1 oil out there as opposed to the Gen 2 Oil. I called dealers and they had more of the Gen 1 versus the Gen 2, meaning Cummings Dealers. I had other Cummins Dealers that had no clue about the Oil.

I am going to put a number out there that there is probably about 150 to 200 gallons of the Gen 1 stuff out there.

Yep
I've stopped by the local Cummins dealer twice in the last 6 months inquiring about their stock of VPB"Restore". Both times they had the gen1 in stock. $80/gal.
I always keep a gal or two on hand.