Valvoline R&P + VR1 - Seasonal/Mixing

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Forgive this basic question but I've been reading a lot about the Valvoline R&P and I'd really like to give it a try in each of my cars:

2011 Toyota Sequoia v8 flex fuel (290k miles): R&P 0W20 or 5W20
2006 Mitsubishi Evo (58k miles): R&P 5w30 + VR1 10W30
2022 Hyundai Veloster N (14k miles): R&P 5w30 + VR1 10W30

The Sequoia obviously has a ton of mileage, always used good oil but OCIs varied from 5k miles to 15k miles. I've only owned it since 220k miles, so not sure what maintenance was done before that. My question is, should I mix in a regular other oil so the cleaning isn't too "harsh"? I've seen some oil filters totally gunk up after using this oil - I'm happy to change filters often if necessary. Or am I overthinking it, and just run it? Or try only running it for 1k before flushing the system with more?

The Evo is raced (autox, track days, time trial - harsh usage) - I usually run VR1 or ZROD, but on the off season I'd like to try using R&P to do a little cleaning. I run E85 about 50% of the time, usually during the race season - will there be any issue going back and forth between R&P & VR1? R&P says it needs 4 flushes to clean 100%, but I don't know if interrupting it will cause any issues.

I mention the Veloster because while it's very similar (2.0L Turbo), it is direct injected (evo is port) and only runs 93 - but same question, autox/harsh usage, often short trips, thinking about using VR1 during the season and switching to R&P during the off season/winter (now).

Would I be introducing any complications by switching oils like this? I have to imagine no, I've run many different oils before, but wasn't sure if there was something special about the additives in R&P that would have need for additional consideraation.
 
kyoo said:
Forgive this basic question but I've been reading a lot about the Valvoline R&P and I'd really like to give it a try in each of my cars:

2011 Toyota Sequoia v8 flex fuel (290k miles): R&P 0W20 or 5W20
2006 Mitsubishi Evo (58k miles): R&P 5w30 + VR1 10W30
2022 Hyundai Veloster N (14k miles): R&P 5w30 + VR1 10W30

The Sequoia obviously has a ton of mileage, always used good oil but OCIs varied from 5k miles to 15k miles. I've only owned it since 220k miles, so not sure what maintenance was done before that. My question is, should I mix in a regular other oil so the cleaning isn't too "harsh"? I've seen some oil filters totally gunk up after using this oil - I'm happy to change filters often if necessary. Or am I overthinking it, and just run it? Or try only running it for 1k before flushing the system with more?

The Evo is raced (autox, track days, time trial - harsh usage) - I usually run VR1 or ZROD, but on the off season I'd like to try using R&P to do a little cleaning. I run E85 about 50% of the time, usually during the race season - will there be any issue going back and forth between R&P & VR1? R&P says it needs 4 flushes to clean 100%, but I don't know if interrupting it will cause any issues.

I mention the Veloster because while it's very similar (2.0L Turbo), it is direct injected (evo is port) and only runs 93 - but same question, autox/harsh usage, often short trips, thinking about using VR1 during the season and switching to R&P during the off season/winter (now).

Would I be introducing any complications by switching oils like this? I have to imagine no, I've run many different oils before, but wasn't sure if there was something special about the additives in R&P that would have need for additional consideraation.
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Do not mix VRP with other oils. They already engineered it to be very mild in rate of cleaning. They actually had tested variants that were much more aggressive in cleaning but backed it off to ensure no issues with filter plugging to such.
 
Hohn said:
Do not mix VRP with other oils. They already engineered it to be very mild in rate of cleaning. They actually had tested variants that were much more aggressive in cleaning but backed it off to ensure no issues with filter plugging to such.
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I have seen some anecdotal videos of filters definitely picking up a little sludge from it, just worried with my Toyota at 290kish having a lot of build up in there.

re: the race cars, no issues with full flushes back and forth? May not clean it as much as I'd like but do need to run the race oil under harsh conditions for the other two.
 
I'm not the one who posted that, but I am the OP - was thinking in hopes of making the oil extra-not-harsh. So a couple uses with half and half for example, before going to 100% R&P
 
kyoo said:
I have seen some anecdotal videos of filters definitely picking up a little sludge from it, just worried with my Toyota at 290kish having a lot of build up in there.

re: the race cars, no issues with full flushes back and forth? May not clean it as much as I'd like but do need to run the race oil under harsh conditions for the other two.
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Yes, picking up sludge is one thing, plugging is another.
 
kyoo said:
I'm not the one who posted that, but I am the OP - was thinking in hopes of making the oil extra-not-harsh. So a couple uses with half and half for example, before going to 100% R&P
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If you’re really worried about it picking up too much deposits quickly (which is unlikely if you have taken good care of the vehicles) then you can simply change the oil filter after the first 1000 to 2000 miles, or simply cut the first interval down to a shorter than usual one. But as others have mentioned, this oil is designed to clean at a slower rate that is safe for most engines. On my first interval in my Civic with VRP I ran it for 5400 miles.
 
kyoo said:
Forgive this basic question but I've been reading a lot about the Valvoline R&P and I'd really like to give it a try in each of my cars:

2011 Toyota Sequoia v8 flex fuel (290k miles): R&P 0W20 or 5W20
2006 Mitsubishi Evo (58k miles): R&P 5w30 + VR1 10W30
2022 Hyundai Veloster N (14k miles): R&P 5w30 + VR1 10W30

The Sequoia obviously has a ton of mileage, always used good oil but OCIs varied from 5k miles to 15k miles. I've only owned it since 220k miles, so not sure what maintenance was done before that. My question is, should I mix in a regular other oil so the cleaning isn't too "harsh"? I've seen some oil filters totally gunk up after using this oil - I'm happy to change filters often if necessary. Or am I overthinking it, and just run it? Or try only running it for 1k before flushing the system with more?

The Evo is raced (autox, track days, time trial - harsh usage) - I usually run VR1 or ZROD, but on the off season I'd like to try using R&P to do a little cleaning. I run E85 about 50% of the time, usually during the race season - will there be any issue going back and forth between R&P & VR1? R&P says it needs 4 flushes to clean 100%, but I don't know if interrupting it will cause any issues.

I mention the Veloster because while it's very similar (2.0L Turbo), it is direct injected (evo is port) and only runs 93 - but same question, autox/harsh usage, often short trips, thinking about using VR1 during the season and switching to R&P during the off season/winter (now).

Would I be introducing any complications by switching oils like this? I have to imagine no, I've run many different oils before, but wasn't sure if there was something special about the additives in R&P that would have need for additional consideraation.
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IIRC Valvoline requires a minimum of 4 consecutive OCI's to realize the potential benefit of this product which, IMO, means it's highly unlikely to be harsh. After all from a business perspective why would it be? Anything less than 4 OCI's is not ideal and results will vary by some unknown degree. IOW if you're going to spend the $$ follow the directions.
 
kschachn said:
For what benefit when the manufacturer states to use it alone?
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What manufacturer of any oil says different? Who cares what they say...

I was going to go full R&P 5w30 for my next OCI but I'll probably just run the blend for the next year or so. I've had the valve covers and oil pan off in the past year and both are very clean. I'm under no illusions of the mystical properties of the stuff, so it doesn't need to clean anything rally.
 
FoxProTwisty said:
What manufacturer of any oil says different? Who cares what they say...

I was going to go full R&P 5w30 for my next OCI but I'll probably just run the blend for the next year or so. I've had the valve covers and oil pan off in the past year and both are very clean. I'm under no illusions of the mystical properties of the stuff, so it doesn't need to clean anything rally.
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Then why not just run it at full strength for two OCIs instead? How do you know that mixing it might not just completely erase any of its potential cleaning power? Did Valvoline say anywhere about mixing this oil with others?

This is why people shouldn’t try to be amateur tribologists. Just run the oil the way it’s designed. Straying off course will NOT make it better.
 
FoxProTwisty said:
What manufacturer of any oil says different? Who cares what they say...

I was going to go full R&P 5w30 for my next OCI but I'll probably just run the blend for the next year or so. I've had the valve covers and oil pan off in the past year and both are very clean. I'm under no illusions of the mystical properties of the stuff, so it doesn't need to clean anything rally.
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Well, if you know better. Hopefully all that applies to the OP.
 
Patman said:
Then why not just run it at full strength for two OCIs instead? How do you know that mixing it might not just completely erase any of its potential cleaning power? Did Valvoline say anywhere about mixing this oil with others?

This is why people shouldn’t try to be amateur tribologists. Just run the oil the way it’s designed. Straying off course will NOT make it better.
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Cause they don't offer it in 40. Who said I wanted it to clean anything?

It says "protect" right in the title. So I'm applying a protectant. So not hard.
 
Run the VRP by itself. If the dipstick oil turns black twice as fast, change the oil filter twice as fast. Otherwise, run the VRP for 4-5k - then run it again. Even with a clean engine, run at least two OCIs and allow it time to do it's hidden pistons/rings work..
 
kyoo said:
Forgive this basic question but I've been reading a lot about the Valvoline R&P and I'd really like to give it a try in each of my cars:

2011 Toyota Sequoia v8 flex fuel (290k miles): R&P 0W20 or 5W20
2006 Mitsubishi Evo (58k miles): R&P 5w30 + VR1 10W30
2022 Hyundai Veloster N (14k miles): R&P 5w30 + VR1 10W30

The Sequoia obviously has a ton of mileage, always used good oil but OCIs varied from 5k miles to 15k miles. I've only owned it since 220k miles, so not sure what maintenance was done before that. My question is, should I mix in a regular other oil so the cleaning isn't too "harsh"? I've seen some oil filters totally gunk up after using this oil - I'm happy to change filters often if necessary. Or am I overthinking it, and just run it? Or try only running it for 1k before flushing the system with more?

The Evo is raced (autox, track days, time trial - harsh usage) - I usually run VR1 or ZROD, but on the off season I'd like to try using R&P to do a little cleaning. I run E85 about 50% of the time, usually during the race season - will there be any issue going back and forth between R&P & VR1? R&P says it needs 4 flushes to clean 100%, but I don't know if interrupting it will cause any issues.

I mention the Veloster because while it's very similar (2.0L Turbo), it is direct injected (evo is port) and only runs 93 - but same question, autox/harsh usage, often short trips, thinking about using VR1 during the season and switching to R&P during the off season/winter (now).

Would I be introducing any complications by switching oils like this? I have to imagine no, I've run many different oils before, but wasn't sure if there was something special about the additives in R&P that would have need for additional consideraation.
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Could you please link me to a post where a filter was gunked up? I’ve seen some carbon deposits but def no “gunking”
 
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