Valvoline R&P + VR1 - Seasonal/Mixing

[kschachn]

Cause they don't offer it in 40. Who said I wanted it to clean anything?

It says "protect" right in the title. So I'm applying a protectant. So not hard.

You'll get better proven protection from Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 for $27. Not a 40-grade, but that's a bit irrelevant given the minimum 3.5 HT/HS. Plus the other attributes of a VW 504 00 approval.

 

[JohnnyG]

Not in any significant amount I can tell, though I haven't had the Veloster for long.
Does that impact the process?

This product is not advertised to "clean engines". That's more of a job for an engine flush, or something else.
This oil is designed to remove piston deposits of hardened carbon in the ring pack area. When this happens, it is USUALLY due to stuck rings, particularly the lowest oil ring and scrapers. When rings get stuck, it USUALLY manifests itself as oil consumption between changes.

I have seen the Valvoline video of the piston rings having the carbon removed.
What I have NOT seen is any evidence that this oil will remove sludge from the valve cover area or anywhere else.

I'm not saying that some cleaning of sludge MIGHT occur, it's just that this oil isn't sold as an engine cleaner.

 

[burbguy82]

i would assume that the chemistries are different, and mixing would achieve nothing, apart from diminishing the characteristics of both VR1 and RP.

 

[rumcapital23]

how about HPL 5W-40 EURO in your EVO???

5W-20 R&P for the Sequoia

and HPL 10W-30 or 10W-40 NO VII for the Veloster?

 

[burbguy82]

You'll get better proven protection from Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 for $27. Not a 40-grade, but that's a bit irrelevant given the minimum 3.5 HT/HS. Plus the other attributes of a VW 504 00 approval.

So your opinion is HTHS over viscosity?

Is there a significant difference between 3.5 and 3.4?

Does HTHS change as it is used?

 

[Triple_Se7en]

This product is not advertised to "clean engines". That's more of a job for an engine flush, or something else.
This oil is designed to remove piston deposits of hardened carbon in the ring pack area. When this happens, it is USUALLY due to stuck rings, particularly the lowest oil ring and scrapers. When rings get stuck, it USUALLY manifests itself as oil consumption between changes.

I have seen the Valvoline video of the piston rings having the carbon removed.
What I have NOT seen is any evidence that this oil will remove sludge from the valve cover area or anywhere else.

I'm not saying that some cleaning of sludge MIGHT occur, it's just that this oil isn't sold as an engine cleaner.

If you are driving a sludge machine that also needs pistons cleaninng, use the VRP for four OCIs and get the pistons area much cleaner. Then go out and buy a sludge monster-cleaning oil.

There is only so high of a percentage of cleaners that one can put inside a quart of oil, before it starts affecting temperature stabilizing abilities and other things like wear protection.

Battle on demon at a time Johnny. If you want some additional ways to return the inside of your engine to respectfulness, go get a bucket of holy water from your nearest Parish and sprinkle some on the vehicle hood once a week.