OK, but the majority? I have no doubt there are scads of erseclowns everywhere and yes they really stick out. But is NOT the majority. No way.
I was a victim of road rage
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I’ll agree that we disagree. Too many indications otherwise from first hand knowledge to see it any other way. In my state, you don’t need a concealed carry if your firearm isn’t concealed. In plain view is a huge deterrent if you’re truly afraid for your safety. Otherwise to pack heat concealed can be someone hoping for an altercation….
My opinion. I own it…..and have seen the official arrest reports in road rage, domestic violence, and aggravated assaults….a guy with a concealed carry permit. They’re also the wise guys when they show up for a weapons release…..
My opinion. I own it…..and have seen the official arrest reports in road rage, domestic violence, and aggravated assaults….a guy with a concealed carry permit. They’re also the wise guys when they show up for a weapons release…..
You see jerks driving and behaving like jerks every day. It does seem to get worse with each passing year.
I see this from drivers of all ages and cars and trucks of all kinds.
I'll note that the average Tesla is at least a twelve second car, but I rarely see these driven by jerks acting jerky. The same is true of Corvettes.
Everything else?
It's open season for foolishly aggressive driving.
Incidentally, with all the CCW talk, it is well to bear in mind that in this state, as well as most others, there are only two steps involved in taking a firearm along for the ride.
Step 1: Purchase the firearm.
Step 2: Carry it, no permit or license of any kind required.
I'll add that I know a lot of folks who carry and among that group are a number who lack the personal temperament to be walking or driving around with a loaded weapon.
I see this from drivers of all ages and cars and trucks of all kinds.
I'll note that the average Tesla is at least a twelve second car, but I rarely see these driven by jerks acting jerky. The same is true of Corvettes.
Everything else?
It's open season for foolishly aggressive driving.
Incidentally, with all the CCW talk, it is well to bear in mind that in this state, as well as most others, there are only two steps involved in taking a firearm along for the ride.
Step 1: Purchase the firearm.
Step 2: Carry it, no permit or license of any kind required.
I'll add that I know a lot of folks who carry and among that group are a number who lack the personal temperament to be walking or driving around with a loaded weapon.
A few bad apples, yes, but you are still ignoring that FBI crime statistics show concealed carry permit holders virtually do not commit crimes with firearms.
Plus you say that "Otherwise to pack heat concealed can be someone hoping for an altercation" that is just silliness. I live in a state where I could open carry, but my opinion is that open carry is not smart. I conceal carry because I do not want anyone to have any idea I'm carrying a gun. I don't need to show it off, tell anyone, let it print so people can see it, touch it, etc. Does that mean I'm out looking for an altercation? No, quite the opposite. The vast majority of people who carry, do it concealed so nobody knows. Are they out looking for an altercation? No.
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If your front bumper clears the stop line before it turns red, you’re legal. My fun is sitting in an intersection waiting to turn left, light turns yellow, nobody stops, turns red, 2-4 knuckleheads run it. Then the cross traffic inexplicably gets mad when I finally get to turn! Funny, all the talk about road rage & shootings-at what point does stupidity cross the line into “assault with a deadly weapon”, a vehicle? It’s getting closer all the time…
The law is not consistent from state to state. Verify your state here:
https://discover.hubpages.com/autos/The-Meaning-of-the-Yellow-Traffic-Signal-in-All-US-Jurisdictions
Probably is, not looking for formulations debates, feel free to search ingredients for all versions and all countries.
I just wanted to make the thread starter Shel_B, road rage victim got it off his paint. It might have been Dr.Pepper or Iced Tea.
The city of Phoenix is among the worst in the nation for red light running and red light crashes. As a result, Phoenix has decided to bring back red light cameras to be positioned at the worst intersections. There will also be some cameras that will be moved around to different intersections at random times. Phoenix traffic police force is significantly understaffed. In the first half of 2024, there's been a 7% decrease in tickets issued and a nearly 30% drop in DUI investigations as compared to 2023. The traffic unit has been depleted from 145 officers to 41 to cover 5000 miles of streets. (ABC15 Local News, June, 2024)
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My experiences around home is that each day we encounter more and more folks that DO NOT use turn signals than those who WILL USE them. To me , that is pure laziness and a middle finger flipped to all other drivers. Choosing to just not use one's turn signals is not only dumb, it is also very dangerous. To make a habit of ignoring and refusing to use one of the easiest safety features ever installed on a motor vehicle is asking for trouble,
It’s more than a few. Lived in that world for 20 years. Again, I’ll agree to disagree. Could be a regional/urban situation. I’m not against gun rights of any type. I personally handled the safekeeping of every seized weapon in our county. The largest percentage that were seized were from domestic violence orders. Most had concealed carry. Couldn’t control their emotions and tempers and got in trouble and their guns were seized until the case was either dismissed or the order (1 year) was up. Also same for aggravated assault etc. etc… The weapons then could be released back to the owner(s). Face to face….and most were mouthy punks….. Lived it everyday, Sorry about the FBI stats….those stats don’t fit here. Maybe they are for murders???
Let’s take this discussion back to the jerk mentioned in the original post that was demonstrating his rage on the highway. My point was/is that these big bad tough guys typically are the type that their concealed carry weapon empowers them to create altercations. How about those stats????
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. Here is what the average driver does if they see a yellow light. Nationwide yellow light duration is considered to be too brief to be safe, most of the silliness would stop if the yellow light duration was based on traffic and average speed as opposed to flashing like a strobe light then red.
If the light goes green and I have to count one-one-thousand, that's grounds for a horn. The time to be scanning the intersection is in the period *prior* to the light turning green... These days, if it takes that long, the person behind you usually assumes you're texting someone. It's very annoying.
Edit: on a side note, no joke I got chased out of a town, by a cop, late late at night the other day in an area where wild life are prone to come out of nowhere and cross the road. I was pretty angry because one in fact did come out and I had to go from about 55 mph to 0 rather quickly. No brake lock. I have a front dash cam, so no real evidence the guy was behind me, but I had it in me to contact their dept. the next day and give 'em a piece of my mind. I didn't, and eventually I just moved on, partially because I regularly go through that town late at night...
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Wow, people are in such a hurry these days. Everywhere I've lived on the west coast, horn honking for nothing is considered pretty rude, on the level of a middle finger.
I agree. Honking the horn because the driver in front of you has taken more than 1 second to move is downright rude. I could see maybe if it was 5 seconds.
Exception exists, you see the glow on their face of a phone or phone held in the air I wait 4-5 seconds for a quick tap(s) of horn
5 seconds is a very long time waiting for someone to get off the brake at a green light.
Lived, lots of injuries, recovery and then listened to some old farts input into the suspension configuration (amongst other things) to race another day.
