I was a victim of road rage

[spasm3]

But it wouldn't it be satisfying to step out of your vehicle, pump a couple of rounds right into the radiator of the horn-blower, holster your weapon, step back into your car and drive away....slowly?

No it would not be satisfying. The taking of a life would be a terrible thing to bear, even when justified.

Once you go down that path, the recipient is now somewhat justified that you are shooting into his occupied vehicle and may return fire. You or he/she or both of you could end up dead.

That would be an example of escalating the situation.

 

[Pablo]

No it would not be satisfying. The taking of a life would be a terrible thing to bear, even when justified.

He wrote nothing of shooting a living thing.

And it would be wrong, regardless. But yes there could be some catharsis in disabling a car that chased me and a girl, both innocent after chasing and endangering both of us and people on the road.

I think that was the point. You extrapolated to killing a person.

 

[PWMDMD]

No it would not be satisfying. The taking of a life would be a terrible thing to bear, even when justified.

Once you go down that path, the recipient is now somewhat justified that you are shooting into his occupied vehicle and may return fire. You or he/she or both of you could end up dead.

That would be an example of escalating the situation.

As I said to my kids - what do you care what some stranger thinks about you? Deescalate the situation and forget about it.

 

[burbguy82]

What a coward. A coke?

One ought always carry a pistol when driving. People are crazy.

 

[spasm3]

No it would not be satisfying. The taking of a life would be a terrible thing to bear, even when justified.

Once you go down that path, the recipient is now somewhat justified that you are shooting into his occupied vehicle and may return fire. You or he/she or both of you could end up dead.

That would be an example of escalating the situation.

He wrote nothing of shooting a living thing.

And it would be wrong, regardless. But yes there could be some catharsis in disabling a car that chased me and a girl, both innocent after chasing and endangering both of us and people on the road.

I think that was the point. You extrapolated to killing a person.

If you are going to carry concealed you have to think several steps ahead , and consider the big picture. Those with that mentality of satisfaction should not carry.

 

[Tom NJ]

A few years ago, someone I know was hospitalized by a car running through a red light at the intersection at which I was stopped.

When Amber Idiot meets Light Leaper - BOOM!

When I approach an amber light, I don't ask myself if I can make it, I ask can I reasonably stop. And I always pause for a couple of seconds when the light turns green.

 

[Mesozoic]

I once had a similar situation where I was riding my Buell motorcycle and a driver of a car intentionally threw a water bottle at me while in motion (out of rage, seeing one of my maneuvers during some heavy traffic near downtown). It hit my helmet and was very upsetting. Shifting my focus onto the driver, this individual clearly overlooked the superior mobility of a small bike as I snaked through heavy traffic to track him down. Once parked, he braced for the confrontation. I was about to smash his face in with my armored gloves when he suddenly apologized, so I backed off.

Lane filtering was legalized in Arizona a few years back and is understandably a potentially uncomfortable situation for "cagers." I've dealt with several verbal altercations as a result of cagers being unaware of the laws, but the worst of it has merely resulted in public humiliation of the driver.

I'm very fortunate that no one has brandished a firearm, thus far. The consequences of that would be far reaching.

 

[Rmay635703]

What concerns me most is that it is going to get worse,

Road rage has picked up big in the last few weeks around here…..

Around here besides TP being short everywhere last week, it’s otherwise like a ghost town. Fewer are driving, stores, restaurants and church is empty. Places where people normally are , are just empty , compared to 3 weeks ago
but those that are driving don’t follow any discernible road laws, “driving through 4 way stops without slowing “, driving through red lights, driving the wrong way (this has been happening dozens of times a week lately)

But the not following any road laws is exactly what has been happening since March 2020. You have to triple check any vehicle in a driveway, on the road or in/approaching an intersection.

The difference is there is literally nobody anywhere during the week, driving at noon feels more like 1am on a Sunday though Sam’s club last weekend was far more packed than I’ve ever seen it even during Black Friday on a weekend where normally everyone is gone or outside doing repairs and not in a store

 

[wander2039]

If you are going to carry concealed you have to think several steps ahead , and consider the big picture. Those with that mentality of satisfaction should not carry.

Tried to explain that to my wife.. After that last incident trying to talk her into a small handgun nothing special just something to put in the console. She's afraid I'm going to go wild west. Well first off I don't do that now, even though you want to deck someone for short term satisfaction long term that's not wise. There's only a couple scenarios in which I'd use it or even bring it out, which according to LEO buddy's would be justified.

 

[wwillson]

Carrying a gun is a huge responsibility with possibly grave consequences. Most people are not likely in an entire lifetime to be in a situation that lethal force is justified. That's what I'm hoping for. The carrier's mentality must be to avoid avoid avoid any situation that could lead to the use of lethal force. If a deadly situation arises, there MUST be a imminent threat to life and the jury has to agree, else you will probably go to jail. There is no room for ego or poor judgement. Whenever someone asks me if I think they should get a carry permit, I tell them that they have to understand how serious carrying a weapon is. Most people that ask me opt to not get a permit when they start to understand how dire the consequences are of poor judgement.

 

[ammolab]

In regards to the oil everything is in solution and it won't be separated by a centrifuge.

For other reasons - this was actually taught to me many years ago in Driver’s Ed - once you have confirmed there is no traffic - get after it … (Treat it like a red zone) …

Driver’s education today is pretty much like regular education today ….

THERE ISN’T ANY!

 

[spasm3]

Driver’s education today is pretty much like regular education today ….

THERE ISN’T ANY!

True, no one seems to know how to use an entrance ramp, accelerate and merge with existing highway traffic.

 

[Rmay635703]

If you are going to carry concealed you have to think several steps ahead , and consider the big picture. Those with that mentality of satisfaction should not carry.

Escalation usually results in more escalation.

No matter how bad arse you think you are there are always people bigger than you, stronger than you, faster than you, better armed than you and more unstable

 

[JeffKeryk]

And what is your point?

The little beep is actually helpful. You might be surprised how easy it is to be distracted from one thing or another. I will have to admit it has made me a more attentive driver. Who'da thunk it?

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Sorry about the incident. I try to drive at least 5mph over posted if I know the road and its danger and required safety aspects- especially during rush hour.

When I commuted daily, I would just simply pass anyone who was moving slow for the conditions - regardless of double yellow. I don't tailgate.
One day in the morning, a car containing a couple of women that were dawdling along suddenly "woke up" and floored their car when I attempted to pass them. This was to prevent me from making a safe pass! This is life-threatening behavior!

When we came to the lights at the next major intersection, I pulled beside them and shouted into their open window "What are you thinking, do you want to be arrested and go to jail? They pulled out their phones and started a video and taking photos of my likely red and angry, distorted face. Luckily, they were in the left turn lane and I conceded and proceeded straight ahead on to work at a good clip.

Never got a call from the local constabulary. If they had forced me to slam on my brakes to avoid a head-on collision with an oncoming vehicle, I would have attempted to block them in and called 911. I am sure that wouldn't go well.

- Arco

 

[Pablo]

Carry is for defense. Period.

 

[JeffKeryk]

But it wouldn't it be satisfying to step out of your vehicle, pump a couple of rounds right into the radiator of the horn-blower, holster your weapon, step back into your car and drive away....slowly?

You're joking right?

 

[Tom NJ]

Carrying a gun is a huge responsibility with grave consequences. Most people are not likely in an entire lifetime to be in a situation that lethal force is justified. That's what I'm hoping for. The carrier's mentality must be to avoid avoid avoid any situation that could lead to the use of lethal force. If a deadly situation arises, there MUST be a imminent threat to life and the jury has to agree, else you will probably go to jail. There is no room for ego or poor judgement. Whenever someone asks me if I think they should get a carry permit, I tell them that they have to understand how serious carrying a weapon is. Most people that ask me opt to not get a permit when they start to understand how dire the consequences are of poor judgement.

Agree. Even just showing a gun can be considered brandishing or assault with a deadly weapon and can land you in jail, not to mention it could get you shot. Reaching for a weapon is a last resort, justified only when you or another person known to be innocent is about to be killed or seriously hurt. And a self defense plea is void if you started or escalated the confrontation - you must be an innocent party in imminent danger. The laws can be complex and differ in every state, so if you want to carry you better know them. Best course is to avoid such circumstances.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

I trust you control your gross urges.

That's not a gross urge. People should never accelerate like a snail, after getting beeped for being late or slow moving off a red light that's turned green.

I would have beeped also. But I would not have taken an accelerated, rude, unlawful response there. That instant becomes the time where you forget about what just happened and move-on with driving in a safe manner.
Always keep your cool out there folks. Otherwise you may find yourself looking at the barrel of someone's gun next to you.

 

[KrisZ]

That’s where a dashcam with front and rear facing cameras comes in handy.