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I Change My Oil Every 1,000 Miles
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So everyone you disagree with is a "troll?" Please tell me this is not another one of those forums where people attack and accuse everyone who does something slightly differently than them?
A troll(Wikipedia): is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
This definition is exactly you
This definition is exactly you
Slightly different?
Dude, no one does that here. We know enough about oil to do better.
Dude, no one does that here. We know enough about oil to do better.
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No, it is not. My intention is not to provoke others. Moreover, posting about oil in an oil forum is hardly "off-topic" lol. That is ridiculous. Are you some kind of paranoid troll hunter? If you do not want to discuss my car's oil, then you are free to not click on the thread. I would, however, as a parting gift, like you to explain to me how posting about oil on an oil forumis "off-topic."
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Originally Posted By: Smokescreen
Slightly different?
Dude, no one does that here. We know enough about oil to do better.
Not eveyrone here (including me) is an oil expert who thinks like the Borg. Some of us are here to LEARN. When we say something that the oil experts do not like, then we get accused of trolling and treated like [censored], it makes us much less likely to ask anything and learn. What you end up with then, is one of those venerable old internet forums where only a small group of people who all know each other post about the same things ove rand over because they all agree. Instead of attacking me, why not explain to me calmly and politely why you think I am changing my oil much too frequently? That would be consstructive rather then destructive.
Slightly different?
Dude, no one does that here. We know enough about oil to do better.
Not eveyrone here (including me) is an oil expert who thinks like the Borg. Some of us are here to LEARN. When we say something that the oil experts do not like, then we get accused of trolling and treated like [censored], it makes us much less likely to ask anything and learn. What you end up with then, is one of those venerable old internet forums where only a small group of people who all know each other post about the same things ove rand over because they all agree. Instead of attacking me, why not explain to me calmly and politely why you think I am changing my oil much too frequently? That would be consstructive rather then destructive.
this website is amazing, I have been on forums since the 90's and I have to say this one is in the top, the knowledge is excellent.
But when you make an announcement such as yours, you open yourself to a barrage of attack because the lack of common sense on the use of a product.
But I run my chevron 5w-30 in my escort for 300 miles between oci and change my tires every 2,000, I don't want the tread to wear more than 1/16 of an inch, otherwise I'll lose traction and slide of the road. Oh yeah I drain my gas if it sits in the tank for more than a week.
The point is the oil has been carefully formulated and chemically balanced for a duty cycle range, your oil is still good, there is no depletion of it at this point and well beyond this point. I encourage you to do a used oil analysis at 1,000 miles then change it and do another at 3,000 you'll be surprised
But when you make an announcement such as yours, you open yourself to a barrage of attack because the lack of common sense on the use of a product.
But I run my chevron 5w-30 in my escort for 300 miles between oci and change my tires every 2,000, I don't want the tread to wear more than 1/16 of an inch, otherwise I'll lose traction and slide of the road. Oh yeah I drain my gas if it sits in the tank for more than a week.
The point is the oil has been carefully formulated and chemically balanced for a duty cycle range, your oil is still good, there is no depletion of it at this point and well beyond this point. I encourage you to do a used oil analysis at 1,000 miles then change it and do another at 3,000 you'll be surprised
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Originally Posted By: Dupree
this website is amazing, I have been on forums since the 90's and I have to say this one is in the top, the knowledge is excellent.
But when you make an announcement such as your you open yourself to a barrage of attack because the lack of common sense on the use of a product.
But I run my chevron 5w-30 in my escort for 300 miles between oci and change my tires every 2,000, I don't want the tread to wear more than 1/16 of an inch, otherwise I'll lose traction and slide of the road. Oh yeah I drain my gas if it sits in the tank for more than a week.
The point is the oil has been carefully formulated and chemically balanced for a duty cycle range, your oil is still good, there is no depletion of it at this point and well beyond this point. I encourage you to do a used oil analysis at 1,000 miles then leave it in for another 2,000 you'll be surprised
This website's knowledge seems amazing, but if this is the way that new people who do not know much about oil are treated, then is it really that amazing? Can't people just be nice to new posters?
this website is amazing, I have been on forums since the 90's and I have to say this one is in the top, the knowledge is excellent.
But when you make an announcement such as your you open yourself to a barrage of attack because the lack of common sense on the use of a product.
But I run my chevron 5w-30 in my escort for 300 miles between oci and change my tires every 2,000, I don't want the tread to wear more than 1/16 of an inch, otherwise I'll lose traction and slide of the road. Oh yeah I drain my gas if it sits in the tank for more than a week.
The point is the oil has been carefully formulated and chemically balanced for a duty cycle range, your oil is still good, there is no depletion of it at this point and well beyond this point. I encourage you to do a used oil analysis at 1,000 miles then leave it in for another 2,000 you'll be surprised
This website's knowledge seems amazing, but if this is the way that new people who do not know much about oil are treated, then is it really that amazing? Can't people just be nice to new posters?
Being nice cuts both ways. Part of forum etiquette is that you hang around reading posts a while before you post, so that you have an idea of the subject matter - what the level of knowledge is, what has been covered repeatedly, what the sore subjects are likely to be, etc.
Originally Posted By: TooManyWheels
Being nice cuts both ways. Part of forum etiquette is that you hang around reading posts a while before you post, so that you have an idea of the subject matter - what the level of knowledge is, what has been covered repeatedly, what the sore subjects are likely to be, etc.
Exactly.
Being nice cuts both ways. Part of forum etiquette is that you hang around reading posts a while before you post, so that you have an idea of the subject matter - what the level of knowledge is, what has been covered repeatedly, what the sore subjects are likely to be, etc.
Exactly.
i also read this article once that while it is ok to change often that is way to early. most of the wear to get occurs while the oil is still new. not allowing to do its job can really only hurt you. but wait i ahve an idea. like the others say switch to super tech conventional. Fram filter or even wix. then, take the money you save and give it to us as part of a "bailout" this would not only allow us to use less oil but you would spend the same. :-}
but seriously go ahead and let it ride you only really hurt your pocket book. if nothing else then at least 2500 miles,
but seriously go ahead and let it ride you only really hurt your pocket book. if nothing else then at least 2500 miles,
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Ok ok, I repent for even mentioning it, and will never again mention it again. Bye.
Here, read this. Same oil as you use, tested every 1000 miles.
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html
Once you have digested that, come back and tell us why you are still doing it.
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html
Once you have digested that, come back and tell us why you are still doing it.
yes unfortunately part of the "learning" process is being told your wrong occasionally
Just tell us your reasoning behind your 1000 mile changes. Give us your logic.
Nobody's trying to get you to go away if you're truly posting for information. It's just that when somebody posts something so far out in left field (as this post) when compared to all the thousands of hours of research and informative posts many here have written it's easy to assume the author is just trying to get a rise out of the forum population. Try to forgive a harsh reaction if you can. If you stick around with an open mind you'll learn a lot.
Starting with evidence that, as others have posted here, changing the oil that frequently could be possibly more damaging than going for a longer interval.
If you're willing to pay attention to empirical evidence and you're truly out to save your engine and not save money, you'd help yourself (and the community) by getting some UOAs. Send in a sample at 1000 miles, and then do a run out to 5000 (still very conservative on Mobil 1 or any other synthetic) and see what the lab says about it.
Many have been broken of the 3000 mile habit here. Many have run engines for 300k miles on 5k intervals or more (with conventional, no less). If you stick around with an open mind, you won't be disappointed.
You want to get a long life out of your engine, why cut the life of your oil short?
Starting with evidence that, as others have posted here, changing the oil that frequently could be possibly more damaging than going for a longer interval.
If you're willing to pay attention to empirical evidence and you're truly out to save your engine and not save money, you'd help yourself (and the community) by getting some UOAs. Send in a sample at 1000 miles, and then do a run out to 5000 (still very conservative on Mobil 1 or any other synthetic) and see what the lab says about it.
Many have been broken of the 3000 mile habit here. Many have run engines for 300k miles on 5k intervals or more (with conventional, no less). If you stick around with an open mind, you won't be disappointed.
You want to get a long life out of your engine, why cut the life of your oil short?
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Ok sorry then. I was just taken aback by the troll accusations. Ok, so how do I obtain an analysis? I read that website and it is interesting. It indeed seems that I should wait until closer to 5,000 miles to change the oil and filter. I am open to learning for sure.
don't purposely avoid the censor
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