Which oil next? Experiment on 2018 Outback

[Glenda W.]

I’m under 1,000 miles on my 4th and final Valvoline R&P oci on my 2018 Subaru Outback oil burner(130k). Full details and results coming soon!!

My next uncontrolled experiment will be to run an OTC oil long term to see if my rings stay clean. I’m willing to be a guinea pig here.

My question for you is out of these two oils easily available at Wally which would you like me to use for the foreseeable future?

Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 (I currently use in many vehicles)

or

Mobil 1 EP HM 5w30

 

[userfriendly]

0w40 Delvac

 

[JavierH19]

0w40 Delvac

Is it common in Canada? I can't find anything on google at least for the US. Only listing I've found is a $15 a liter one on amazon.

 

[shortyb]

ESP is my vote.

 

[userfriendly]

Is it common in Canada? I can't find anything on google at least for the US. Only listing I've found is a $15 a liter one on amazon.

Very common here, and probably in Argentina too. A five gallon, 18.9L pail costs around $160 C$ or $112USD.
I can get it at one of 500 Canadian Tire stores or cheaper from my local bulk lubricants dealer. Check for a commercial Mobil fuel and lubricants dealer in your area.

www.coolcreek.ca

 

[JavierH19]

Very common here, and probably in Argentina too. A five gallon, 18.9L pail costs around $160 C$ or $112USD.
I can get it at one of 500 Canadian Tire stores or cheaper from my local bulk lubricants dealer. Check for a commercial Mobil fuel and lubricants dealer in your area.

www.coolcreek.ca

Wow only $22 a gal for that great oil. It's shame we don't get it.

 

[Patman]

I’m actually going to say EP HM here because that was another oil that I have been considering giving a try in my Civic after I’m done with VRP and they claim that it can remove sludge in just one oil change so that might just help clean up whatever VRP didn’t get.

 

[racer12306]

M1 EP HM

On our Pacifica, I switch to that in 0w20 from PP 0w20 and saw a significant decrease in oil consumption. It used to use 1qt/4000-5000, after the switch it used 1/2qt over a 10000 interval. The level on the stick didn't even concern me. I wouldn't have believed it from an internet story.

Thread '1st Run of M1 EP HM 0w20 - '17 Pacifica'

Apr 22, 2024

2017 Pacifica
3.6L Pentastar
~104,000 miles currently

Brief history: I have used PP0w20 at OLM intervals (approx 10k) since we got it at around 40/45k. Past life was a rental iirc. Over the last several oil changes, It would use 1qt/5000 miles

Don't remember exactly why I made the change. I think I was kicking around switching from PP 0w20 to HPL 0w20 or 5w20 to see if it would clean up the oil consumption (a stretch I know, but why not experiment when it won't hurt anything). I know I went with 0w20 over 5w20 to not make too many changes at once. So it was just an oil type change, not a...

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[LazyDog]

My vote is on EP, I have this on the CRV.

 

[JavierH19]

I wonder how well castrol EP would fare.

 

[ltslimjim]

Of the two, given a history of oil consumption and getting up in mileage; stick to EP HM. It’s primarily GTL base and designed to go longer so less likely to begin to allow for piston ring deposits. Though, I doubt ESP would either with a conservative interval. That said, extended drain oils tend to be blended with ability to run clean based on what HPL has indicated about their own oils. So, if any oil isn’t marketed as extended drain, maybe shy away if already a history of stuck oil rings

 

[scalar_field]

Looking forward to the R&P results!

Based on this forum, I'm having a hard time figuring out why I'd use anything other than ESP 0w-40 on my EJ253 (with the possible exception of running R&P to try to get oil consumption down first).

 

[burbguy82]

I’m under 1,000 miles on my 4th and final Valvoline R&P oci on my 2018 Subaru Outback oil burner(130k). Full details and results coming soon!!

My next uncontrolled experiment will be to run an OTC oil long term to see if my rings stay clean. I’m willing to be a guinea pig here.

My question for you is out of these two oils easily available at Wally which would you like me to use for the foreseeable future?

Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 (I currently use in many vehicles)

or

Mobil 1 EP HM 5w30

Chevron pro ds 5w30

 

[D1dad]

I’m going to use Hps 5w20 in our 18 rogue. It’s only ever saw maxlife syn and schaefers, both in 0w20. I scored a couple case for $60 per case and have been waiting for the weather to warm and to run out my tank of redline fuel system cleaner. Today may be the day!

 

[barkingspider]

0w30

 

[Zee09]

I'd go with Lucas 5w50 full synthetic....yeah I know, I'm already gone.....

 

[mt23]

M1 ESP 0W30

Years ago I had my buddy run this in a total beater Subaru EJ253 Legacy cvt and it completely halted the oil consumption after many oil changes. Probably 100k miles worth of 10k oil changes and redline daily. EJ253 having larger oil ring spaces than the FB, it was still impressive to me at the time.

 

[Overfill]

Varnish is not sludge, so I don't see a backing why either would offer help with that
What's been your consumption experience with VRP?

 

[userfriendly]

Wow only $22 a gal for that great oil. It's shame we don't get it.

Yeah, we’re spoiled with low lubricant prices in Canada, but single quarts are typically a ripoff.
I can’t see there being much of a call for 0w40 Delvac in Texas, but in the upper Michigan peninsula and northern states, necessary for winter operation. HDEO 0w40s became popular in Canada for heavy equipment left outside in remote locations, like forestry and mine sites.
THFs that meet J20D would not be of much use in a hot climate and likely cause “afternoon fade” in hydraulic systems, but a necessity for cold climate operations.

 

[Urshurak776]

Quaker State Ultimate Protection!


Okay, I'll see my way out......