I'd definitely run Valvoline Restore and Protect. Lots of reports of Subarus burning oil, but this is a major example. Immaculately maintained with high quality oils on 5k OCI, and it still burned.
Valvoline Extended Protection HM vs Mobil 1 ESP?
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Ha, I continued reading, and saw you are planning for VRP. That is a good plan. I would personally just continue running it.
Purolator Boss filters have fallen out of favor. Quality issues.
If you'd like the tl;dr of the oil filter forum, use a Carquest Premium (Autozone) or Microgard Select from O'Reilly's (not misspelled).
Lots of reports of oil burning on this oil. Subaru on it from day 1, still started burning.
Everyone missing VRP staring them in the face.
There’s a lot of ways to measure”performance.” I wonder in what ways the R&P is their highest performer. If it meets all the Euro specs, why not say at least they recommend it for those also? Why is it only recommended for non-Euro applications? What’s a couple tenths HTHS among friends?
We know that Valvoline (like M1) doesn’t hesitate to recommend products they consider to be suitable, even if they don’t have the explicit license or endorsement. Their PDSs quite often list separately the licenses and approvals from their “recommendations” or “meets requirements.”
So Valvoline states both the VR&P is their “highest performing product” while also pairing it only with API and ILSAC licensing a relative pittance of recommendations for Ford and Chrysler.
It’s one thing to have so few OEM endorsements. But Valvoline isn’t even recommending it for Japanese OEMs or Korean makers.
How can the same oil that is the “highest performer” in the line still not meet Valvoline’s OWN internal threshold of recommendations for the many other places where it would meet viscosity requirements?
I think it’s probably as simple as this: by some particular measures (cleanliness, especially, but perhaps just the things ILSAC and AP measure), VRP is absolutely the highest performing oil that Valvoline makes. But there must be a reason they continue to offer more tailored products for other applications. It’s not cheap to proliferate so many niche oils. Those products must justify their existence in the face of face of a new “wonder” oil that is the internal competitor threatening to obsolete them.
I’m a huge fan of VRP, it’s been a wonder oil in my experience so far. But I do not believe it is the best oil Valvoline makes for every application, and there are almost certainly products in their portfolio that will outperform it by different measures.
All great questions. All would be best addressed by a Valvoline engineer or representative. Haven't seen these addressed in the interviews I've watched with Valvoline employees.
Your questions prompted me to look up which Valvoline oils are approved for MB 229.52 (just picked one at random). Only Valvoline European Vehicle and Valvoline Synpower. Doesn't seem like they put a lot of effort towards getting Euro approvals or making Euro approved products.
Oil services on time make all the difference. Late or ignored preventive maintenance will lead to oil burning.
This was maintained well. As was Glenda's car in the Subaru oil burner thread here. 5k OCIs with high quality oils.
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