Buy a meal at a fast food pay for tap water

They are being phased out in the US as well.
I actually pulled into a McDonalds while travelling about 6 months ago. I wanted a coffee and I needed to use the wifi - I couldn't get pulled up what I needed on my phone.

It was clear to me they didn't really want anyone inside at all. I think there pretty much getting set up to do drive through only. I think they much preferred the pandemic - when they just locked everyone out. Much cheaper - don't need as much staff.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if fast food establishments will eventually be drive thru or pick up only; pennies become dollars. I had this thought before the pandemic; was typing at the same time as @SC Maintenance. (y)

WiFi
Restrooms
Condiments
Paper products
Straws
Sodas when only paying for water

All for the taking, and it all adds up when people abuse the system; nothing new here. I meet a colleague at 7AM on certain weekends for coffee and see it all, it's pathetic.
 
I actually pulled into a McDonalds while travelling about 6 months ago. I wanted a coffee and I needed to use the wifi - I couldn't get pulled up what I needed on my phone.

It was clear to me they didn't really want anyone inside at all. I think there pretty much getting set up to do drive through only. I think they much preferred the pandemic - when they just locked everyone out. Much cheaper - don't need as much staff.

Around that time, several locations near me just cut a small sliding window in the side of the door to take orders or for pickup. But they fixed it up quickly as soon as they didn't need it any more.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if fast food establishments will eventually be drive thru or pick up only; pennies become dollars. I had this thought before the pandemic; was typing at the same time as @SC Maintenance. (y)

WiFi
Restrooms
Condiments
Paper products
Straws
Sodas when only paying for water

All for the taking, and it all adds up when people abuse the system; nothing new here. I meet a colleague at 7AM on certain weekends for coffee and see it all, it's pathetic.
You just wouldn't see that if you go back to the mid 80s and prior. I'm sure there were a rare few but in general it just did not happen. Common decency has been gone in the USA for many decades now.
 
It's here too, @FordP3. As a side note, I vacation in NY and FLA regularly, and people often tell me that they have had negative experiences there, especially FLA. That has never been the case with us, which is why we go so often, but I do notice a little more attitude there. My wife tells me to mind my own business when people start getting into it, but I hate to see people/workers being verbally abused by entitled jerks.
 
You just wouldn't see that if you go back to the mid 80s and prior. I'm sure there were a rare few but in general it just did not happen. Common decency has been gone in the USA for many decades now.
I don't think you can blame this on some sort of societal or generation thing. You can sit at Starbucks or Panera all day, plug in your computer and spread out - no one cares. There was another recent thread of people complaining about this.

This is pure greed by the corporate factory prepared food industry. They don't want to operate restaurants. They want to sell the lowest quality, highest margin food they can at the highest turn rate possible.
 
My observation is in the big cities you see fast food on every corner practically, but when you go into the small Outback communities and towns there might be one and they give you everything! They want to keep the business.
 
That’s as crazy as having to pay $50 if you want a physical owner’s manual (I’ve seen online this is the case with our new car).
 
My observation is in the big cities you see fast food on every corner practically, but when you go into the small Outback communities and towns there might be one and they give you everything! They want to keep the business.
A year or so ago I was to meet a customer at their plant first thing in rural VA. My contact - head of maintenance, said bring biscuits. I asked how many - 50.

So that night I swung into the Hardees and talked to the manager. Said I need 50 biscuits around 7:00AM. Can I order them now? She said 50, no problem, just show up tomorow morning. I was hesitant but she was confident.

So at around 6:30 I showed up and ordered 50 biscuits. There were about a dozen seniors sitting around talking. I sat down to wait. People came in and ordered. The line stacked up. The drive through stacked up. No one complained.

20 minutes or so my 50 biscuits were done. I wondered if I would make it out alive, but no problems, everyone wished me a good day.

Things work different where everyone knows everyone.
 
A year or so ago I was to meet a customer at their plant first thing in rural VA. My contact - head of maintenance, said bring biscuits. I asked how many - 50.

So that night I swung into the Hardees and talked to the manager. Said I need 50 biscuits around 7:00AM. Can I order them now? She said 50, no problem, just show up tomorow morning. I was hesitant but she was confident.

So at around 6:30 I showed up and ordered 50 biscuits. There were about a dozen seniors sitting around talking. I sat down to wait. People came in and ordered. The line stacked up. The drive through stacked up. No one complained.

20 minutes or so my 50 biscuits were done. I wondered if I would make it out alive, but no problems, everyone wished me a good day.

Things work different where everyone knows everyone.
Unfortunately that kind of situation is getting more and more rare in the USA as each day goes by. But I remember as a child in
the 1970s in the mid west right outside of big city chicago, in the west/northwest suburbs Buffalo Grove, Dundee, Wheeling, ect
that while people didn't always know each other (and the populations were not small) there was still a good deal of decency in those places. You do not see this today at all. It is a cultural and generational thing in the USA.
 
That’s as crazy as having to pay $50 if you want a physical owner’s manual (I’ve seen online this is the case with our new car).
@John105
When my wife got her Yukon Denali back in 2024 they tried the same thing. When I got to the dealer I wanted to go over the vehicle to check it out. Went through the glove box and console and no owners manual. I asked the salesman where it was and he gave me the same scenario. I knew this would happen because the week before my nephew bought a new Tahoe High Country and his dealer told him same thing) Told him to pull one from another. He said there wasn't any.

My wife and I started to walk back towards my car and he wanted to know what was going on--told him no manual no truck. He said to follow him inside and he talked to manager and he was able to locate it right away. Guess he didn't want to lose a 6 digit sale!
 
Years ago I was in Germany and only had a few Euros and change. They told me water was 1 Euro. I told them, "No. Water is free."
Europeans are sticklers about this. Several youtubers have said it's one of the things they wish their own country would offer. In many places in Colorado they give you a clear cup and it better not have soda of any kind in it.
 
You just wouldn't see that if you go back to the mid 80s and prior. I'm sure there were a rare few but in general it just did not happen. Common decency has been gone in the USA for many decades now.
You mean during the widespread crack/cocaine epidemic… oookkay, buddy. I’m sure all the crackheads were decent folks who’d never swipe some napkins and straws.
 
@John105
When my wife got her Yukon Denali back in 2024 they tried the same thing. When I got to the dealer I wanted to go over the vehicle to check it out. Went through the glove box and console and no owners manual. I asked the salesman where it was and he gave me the same scenario. I knew this would happen because the week before my nephew bought a new Tahoe High Country and his dealer told him same thing) Told him to pull one from another. He said there wasn't any.

My wife and I started to walk back towards my car and he wanted to know what was going on--told him no manual no truck. He said to follow him inside and he talked to manager and he was able to locate it right away. Guess he didn't want to lose a 6 digit sale!
Haha that’s what we’re getting, the Tahoe High Country. It’s in transit now and presumably without an owners manual in the glove box! For real there is a lot to just the 4WD and adjusting the air ride. I wonder if a sales rep is going to be able to explain at what mph you can make changes etc. or that at sustained 65 mph the vehicle lowers by 3/4”. Then raises again below x mph.

On the fast food, as mentioned before l, since all McD deals are gone from the app, my son and I will use the bogo for a large sandwich that’s on each and every receipt. Every time I go to use it, the cashier looks at me like processing the promo as hard as finding Sasquatch or the Loch Ness Monster….
 
@John105
Yep, mgr didn't understand what the big deal was as that is how it is now. Told me I could download and print the manual and even save it on the computer in the vehicle. How am I to do/know that without a manual. I told him he could give me 50 bucks for the paper and ink!! He just smiled and went to a locker in his ofc and got me a new manual.
 
In Germany, tap water is considered fit only for animals to drink even though it is perfectly fine. In a German restaurant you get bottled water...either "still" (no carbonation) or "Sprudelwasser" (basically soda water). Best bet there is to drink beer.
 
I have done that a few times. If they tell me ahead of time before they charge me (so that I can say no) that's fine. I don't want to read the receipt to find out.

I see this most often in those McDonalds near highway truck stop.
 
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