Valvoline R&P Oil Burner Test Results

i only buy shell gasoline. being able to pay through the app is a big plus for me aswell.
I love all of the discounts and Air Miles offers that I get up here from using the Shell app, it’s added up to a few hundred dollars in savings per year on all of my Corvette’s gas
 
I love all of the discounts and Air Miles offers that I get up here from using the Shell app, it’s added up to a few hundred dollars in savings per year on all of my Corvette’s gas
does AAP have a partnership with shell in canada? i feel bad because shell is a direct competitor with the company i work for lol.
 
I can’t remember all the details but I ran Amsoil for quite awhile. Also ran Mobil 1 Ext Performance for many oil changes as well. I believe the last 2 or 3 changes just prior to Valv R&P was Mobil 1 Ext Perf High Mileage. The only oil I used but didn’t go with multiple consecutive oil runs was with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum because it was difficult to get on a consistent basis. Amazon or another supplier would be out of stock so I’d go back to Amsoil or Mobil 1.
And no reduction in oil burning with Amsoil?

AMSOIL crowd must be in shambles now after the release of VRP. Seems like the oil to beat now.
 
And no reduction in oil burning with Amsoil?

AMSOIL crowd must be in shambles now after the release of VRP. Seems like the oil to beat now.
Hardly. It’s not an extended service oil. Valvoline isn’t in general. Not really a comparison. Now, if you have an engine that’s been neglected and you want some cleaning on shorter interval? Sure, VRP is a good choice. But if you aren’t combating coked up oil control rings, there isn’t really any way this oil outperforms Amsoil Signature. In fact, for the OP, if they had used Amsoil SS from the start, it may have never began burning or at least gotten as bad on another Valvoline product.
 
I’ll give you that. But zoom out a bit.
There are probably half a million quarts of this stuff in oil pans as I type this. Do you not think that in this day of viral videos that if someone had a major seal problem or other issue from using VRP, we’d have heard about it by now?

Instead the worse accusation someone can levy against it is that it failed to repair a consumption problem. Well, that’s holding VRP to a standard no other oil is ever held to.
That’s a pretty wild *** guess that this oil is in over 100,000 engines. I don’t think there’s any major deal issues nor will there be since the oxidation numbers show there’s no (or extremely little) esters in the formula.

The worst accusation would be that they’re using false advertising if it doesn’t do what it says. Doesn’t matter what the claim is or if any other oils can do, if an oil makes a specific claim it needs to be able to do that. It’s an evaluation only against itself. It either satisfies the claim or it doesn’t.
 
Hardly. It’s not an extended service oil. Valvoline isn’t in general. Not really a comparison. Now, if you have an engine that’s been neglected and you want some cleaning on shorter interval? Sure, VRP is a good choice. But if you aren’t combating coked up oil control rings, there isn’t really any way this oil outperforms Amsoil Signature. In fact, for the OP, if they had used Amsoil SS from the start, it may have never began burning or at least gotten as bad on another Valvoline product.

The UOAs seem pretty good.

If Amsoil is so great then why can’t it clean like VRP can? Not trolling here. Earnest question. Any reports you can link to of Amsoil unsticking piston rings?

I think that it’s hard to say if Amsoil had been run since new if she would have developed an oil burner. I think that’s a big assumption. I have read though of many reports of people running Amsoil for extended intervals and getting sludged up engines.
 
The UOAs seem pretty good.

If Amsoil is so great then why can’t it clean like VRP can? Not trolling here. Earnest question. Any reports you can link to of Amsoil unsticking piston rings?

I think that it’s hard to say if Amsoil had been run since new if she would have developed an oil burner. I think that’s a big assumption. I have read though of many reports of people running Amsoil for extended intervals and getting sludged up engines.
My rural route mail carrier drives a 1996ish Subaru Legacy wagon with well over 440k miles (last asked her about 2 years ago now) on it and the valve covers have never been off, no engine or transmission work ever done outside of all fluids being changed with Amsoil since new.

Considering that Subarus built during the 2nd Clinton presidency didn’t exactly compile the most solid record regarding engine gaskets & sealants, I’d say that’s a pretty solid point of reference.
 
Do you have a reference for this? Not questioning it. Just curious to see how they released that info.
There were a few instances where they mentioned this. One was the LSJ video and the others were articles.

“We were trying to basically minimize deposits, engine wear, friction and heat, and oil formulation is a balance, so you have to pick and choose what you want it to do,” Warholic explained. “What we didn’t know was before the testing that it would remove and reverse the process–that is something you can’t predict by modeling. Restore and Protect removed engine deposits.

“I had never seen anything like it before, and I have eight years at Valvoline and 16 years at a company that makes the additives used in oil formulation.”
 
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Just watched part of this again (2:45-11:00). Great video. They talked about how they work with universities throughout the US and synthetized a molecule in a lab in Mumbia, India. Was tested here in the US labs. They even mention how important it is to flush the IIIH test engine due to the low treat rates they use in some of their products.

(11:15) is where he says they didn't realize it at first.

 
My rural route mail carrier drives a 1996ish Subaru Legacy wagon with well over 440k miles (last asked her about 2 years ago now) on it and the valve covers have never been off, no engine or transmission work ever done outside of all fluids being changed with Amsoil since new.

Considering that Subarus built during the 2nd Clinton presidency didn’t exactly compile the most solid record regarding engine gaskets & sealants, I’d say that’s a pretty solid point of reference.
Indeed! Anecdotal evidence is still evidence.
 
Because you’re already at Costco and it’s not worth 15min driving somewhere else to pay more
There isn’t another gas station 15 mins away from your Costco? I don’t shop there because of the distance but the closest one to me has a Starbucks, Chick-fil-A, several banks, Texaco, 7/11 (branded Exxon gas) etc only a stone’s throw away from it. Like quite literally in the same several square miles of land.

I don’t care if people want to wait go for gas (none of my business) but it’s odd to hear of a Costco being that secluded.
 
Lots of Amsoil SS tear down vids at extremely high mileage(500k+). I’ve never seen a dirty one personally for what it’s worth.
Same. The main criticism of Amsoil always seems to involve cost, never really cleanliness or effectiveness. I.E. it's not that Amsoil isn't great oil, it's that this other also-great oil costs less. Me I'm not to worried about oil cost in the big picture.
 
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