So I've want to buy a $60K electric Kia...
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Valet should be 40 HP.
I just heard Tesla will be cutting prices on some of their vehicles in the US and Germany. If that's old news, sorry. Some are saying it appears to be an act of desperation, time will tell. In any event competition is heating up I guess. Good for the consumer, not so good for share holders.
With that combination of weight of the batteries and vehicle, and all the HP of the GT and torque, and the size of the tires, that vehicle will go through a set of tired in about 10,000 miles per set. And that is with good quality tires. Forking out the cost of a set of tires every 10K miles will get old quickly for many owners.
No it won't. I just measured the PSAS4's on my Volvo C40. They are at 6/32 all around. 235/40/20 up front, 255/35/20 on the back. 402hp/485# torque (with no "modes", it just always is.). Vehicle weight is literally identical to an EV6 GT. I have 10,000mi on these tires at present. Unless the alignment specs eat them, or I hoon around in it (you can kill tires in 5 miles on a Civic...), it's going to be just fine.
All that tells us is what we've already known. Teslas are stoopid cheap cars with good batteries/motors.
It only costs Tesla about $40K to make the vehicle...why people were paying $60K+ is because they were literally the only viable EV in town. Now? Not hardly. Their novelty-tax is no good anymore.
Just because they’re capable of making instant torque doesn’t mean you have to use it. Drive it like any other car and the tires will last just as long as any other car of the same weight driven in the same way.
Toyota has one EV. The BZ4X. Everything I've seen from it is pretty horrible.I agree, and things might get worse for them as the big three get even more into the EV market. Maybe the party is over. Lets not forget Toyota, they aren't diving in head first yet. I have a feeling they might be the smartest of all the car makers
Ford's Mach E was a great first effort that is very popular.
The Blazer EV remains to be seen, but looks very smart inside!
Kia/Hyundai are dominating with the 800V architecture and features at their price point, along with a Consumer Reports glowing bill of health.
Jaguar and Porsche are Jag and Porsche. Got some issues but drive nice.
MB and BMW are like space shuttles. They are expensive, but unlike Tesla, they LOOK and FEEL the part.
that's true for 90% of the diesels out there, but there's a few diesel cars that are really smooth and fast, mostly newer BMWs.
ev's loose range in the cold, diesels don't start instantly. there's tradeoffs for every kind of car.Unless it’s cold outView attachment 135269
It's performing better than EVs that cost more, and reliably, so Im good for it. Remember when there was no Toyota worth $80k?
I agree. Here's the rub, once KIA realizes their offering is better and more reliable than their competition's, they'll more than likely hike the price.
I agree and why I dont need to spend an extra $15,000 for a small heavy battery operated car when for my use I can get a well equipped midsize SUV that has a decent tow rating and the convenience of gas refueling
When is comes to the EV market, if that is for you, hold onto you hats! You will have endless choices in less than two years and just this year alone 2023 there will be 30 new models to chose from.
Choice is good! EV or ICE whatever floats ones boat
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I think the EV6 GT may get a price hike, but I don't think the lesser models will. The EV6 GT looks almost like a loss leader. It costs $4K more than the GT Line, and it:
-Gets better motors, 21,000rpm redline (6k higher than the baser motors). This allows a 161mph top speed with a single-speed gearbox.
-SiC inverters, dual phase.
-Adaptive and adjustable suspension
-Extra chassis bracing
-15" rotors up front, 14.2 out back
-Seats from the N-Line cars from Hyundai up front
-eLSD, oil cooled
-Direct oil cooled motors
All this adds up to an EV that hotlapped the northern loop of the 'Ring 3x without any power reduction due to heat, while the Teslas and Taycan Turbo S and all those were either limping during the first lap, or right after. Further, the EV6 GT was far more efficient on the track, averaging about 92kwh/100km while the Taycan Turbo S was using over 130. The cooling and powertrain in the EV6 GT are literally without peer anywhere NEAR this price point.
Oh. You lose the cooled seats. Boo. But yeah...I think all that stuff cost a lot more than $4K to add...
https://www.largus.fr/actualite-aut...bonne-electrique-au-nurburgring-30024202.html
https://www.hyundaimotorgroup.com/story/CONT0000000000031487
Literally nothing out there compares to this powertrain at this point. Maybe the latest Plaid S could handle this without overheating, but I dunno.
Cruising at 160mph...over 20K rpm...battery is @ 100*F or so hammering it down the highway at 160+mph, slamming the brakes, and doing it again and again and all sorts of shenanigans.
https://www.evcreate.nl/ideal-battery-temperature/
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You mean like they have with all of their vehicles? Thing is, their vehicles aren't better and more reliable than their competition's. Their value was the fact that they WERE less expensive than their competition's, which is no longer true...
Pretty much. If people are buying them, prices are going to go up, it's supply and demand. The car makers were feeling their oats for a while, the rate hikes are starting to take the wind out of their sails. My bet is incentives and more negotiable dealers are coming soon. Tesla didn't cut prices because they feel sorry for their customers.
