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Sorry to say Cali. has much bigger problems than frame rust, That said I hate salt, why not more Stainless steel brake lines fuel lines etc. $ oh thats why.
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Very good post, nice break down.
I'm sure it does. But visit a West Coast state in a mountainous area that allows studded tires and tell me what you think of the rutted, destroyed roads. I vaguely remember hearing the cost allowing studded tires costs each year in a state due to damage to road surfaces and it sounded pretty large, given the percent of people running studs. That said, my next set of tires I'm thinking will be those all weather 3PMS with a decent tread warranty.
Stainless steel still rusts, especially when you have dissimilar metals. Fasteners made of stainless steel also tend to gall together... it may all go together once, but it will likely not come back apart if it needs servicing.
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Yeah, I’ve definitely seen stainless steel lines rust. Never really understood why, but they do. Of course I think they’ll obviously last a lot longer than just regular treated steel, but they will rust and need replacement at some point. Same for stainless steel exhaust systems...but they do last a lot longer.
Don’t some vehicles come with stainless steel lines? I never really noticed or cared to look. Usually when I‘m working on replacing lines they’re so rusty that I don’t notice if they’re stainless or not.
not to mention earth quakes.
A normal sight here in Toronto during the winter months. As I speak we are getting 15cm of snow today and the salt will be piled onto the streets by day break or mid afternoon.
I use KROWN to rustproof the cars, I do it once a year. In the spring and summer time I regularly wash and wax the cars to ensure longevity for the paint etc. Like anything in life preventive measures go a long way. They’re not guarantees but if you didn’t carry out certain steps you’d be much worse.
Side note: Been to The U.A.E, Jamaica, Arizona and Nevada in the summer time and it’s just stupid hot. You can’t step out and enjoy the mid afternoon without dying of thirst. It’s just uncomfortable heat. Don’t know how some of you folks do it, kudos to you. San Fran wasn’t bad in the summer, neither were San Jose, Santa B and L.A. They were bearable weather wise
I like the fact here in Toronto we get all four season. Winter can be brutal but it’s nothing tocrazy. Summer is humid and many aren’t fans of that, they like dry heat more so. It’s a sight to behold when the leaves change colours in the fall and winter causes snow to sit on branches, it looks picturesque. I get to ski and ice skate and play some good hockey with the boys. Summer time? I pull out out the summer car and enjoy it, it feels like I’m driving it for the first time, the feeling never dies.
Humans have this ability called adaption. It’s served us well as there are over 7 billion of us living on different continents with a plethora of micro climates. We stay where we are due to: family, emotional attachments, accessibility, comfort, work etc. I ask my parents all the time why did the choose to come to Toronto when they were immigrating in the 70s. Their response? “We had family here already”. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less.
I mean our 13% HST is annoying, our cellphone plans suck, our tax system leaves much to be desired, our real estate market is gone bananas and our government is lead by a drama teacher/ski instructor but I’ll be ****ed if I’m moving from Toronto let alone Canada.
I use KROWN to rustproof the cars, I do it once a year. In the spring and summer time I regularly wash and wax the cars to ensure longevity for the paint etc. Like anything in life preventive measures go a long way. They’re not guarantees but if you didn’t carry out certain steps you’d be much worse.
Side note: Been to The U.A.E, Jamaica, Arizona and Nevada in the summer time and it’s just stupid hot. You can’t step out and enjoy the mid afternoon without dying of thirst. It’s just uncomfortable heat. Don’t know how some of you folks do it, kudos to you. San Fran wasn’t bad in the summer, neither were San Jose, Santa B and L.A. They were bearable weather wise
I like the fact here in Toronto we get all four season. Winter can be brutal but it’s nothing tocrazy. Summer is humid and many aren’t fans of that, they like dry heat more so. It’s a sight to behold when the leaves change colours in the fall and winter causes snow to sit on branches, it looks picturesque. I get to ski and ice skate and play some good hockey with the boys. Summer time? I pull out out the summer car and enjoy it, it feels like I’m driving it for the first time, the feeling never dies.
Humans have this ability called adaption. It’s served us well as there are over 7 billion of us living on different continents with a plethora of micro climates. We stay where we are due to: family, emotional attachments, accessibility, comfort, work etc. I ask my parents all the time why did the choose to come to Toronto when they were immigrating in the 70s. Their response? “We had family here already”. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less.
I mean our 13% HST is annoying, our cellphone plans suck, our tax system leaves much to be desired, our real estate market is gone bananas and our government is lead by a drama teacher/ski instructor but I’ll be ****ed if I’m moving from Toronto let alone Canada.
Here in Northern Virginia, we have hot and humid summers in addition to cold and snowy winters. As I told a friend of mine last weekend..if you don't like the freezing rain this weekend, just wait 6 months for 90F and 90%.
Virginia used to use more sand, but in the last 10-15 years they've started using salt. And going crazy with it. I think someone high up at VDOT must be a relative of someone in the salt business.
As somebody who likes old cars I dislike rust and salt as much as anybody else but with salt on the roads you have to accept it as a necessary evil. In Canada and the salt belt states if salt wasn't used there would undoubtedly be many more accidents on the roads and highways. At the end of the day cars are replaceable, but lives are not.
I will take the poor winters, salted roads, miles of grid roads to drive, wear and tear on my vehicles because its all worth it when you have sparse but excellent neighbours, little to no crime in the area, nobody coming into your yard, freedom to sled, quad or horseback ride whenever or wherever you please and the nearest socialists are jam packed in tin can houses in the city.
A couple weeks ago this is what I came across leaving my driveway.
But back to the original post. I find there is not much of salt issues when its constantly below freezing. Its the thaw, slush and heat that seem to make salt a real issue.
A couple weeks ago this is what I came across leaving my driveway.
But back to the original post. I find there is not much of salt issues when its constantly below freezing. Its the thaw, slush and heat that seem to make salt a real issue.
Salt and other corrosive chemicals are not necessary. I lived in North Dakota for almost 12 years. There they put down sand, I'm guessing they use this because salt and the other chemicals used in the Midwest are not effective there because it gets so cold. However, sand made the roads safe to drive on. The snow there would become like a pavement on top of the pavement and the sand gave vehicles traction. It was much less corrosive (if it was corrosive at all) than the salt and other chemicals...
Don't speak too soon about Texans enjoying a salt-free driving experience. There's a generous brown spray of that stuff down the side of my Focus right now. Can't wait to get that stuff out from underneath and off my paint.
They just want you to get a new car for reasons which we can't discuss on this board.
Problem is all that salt is affecting waterways. From a ditch to Broad Run to Lake Jackson to the Occoquan River to the Potomac River, that's where the salt ends up.
Those rivers just empty into the ocean, which is full of salt anyway.
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