Day in the life of a mechanic...

One thing to note, twice the hp in the HAH is nice, but would it be easy to pull the tranny and rebuild it? Change a head gasket?

Since the HAH doesn't have much of a tranny, removing and rebuilding it would be of no concern
It looks as though getting the head off wouldn't be all that hard, although at my current age I'd have a good local shop do it should a head gasket ever be required,
 
One thing to note, twice the hp in the HAH is nice, but would it be easy to pull the tranny and rebuild it? Change a head gasket?

Since the HAH doesn't have much of a tranny, removing and rebuilding it would be of no concern
It looks as though getting the head off wouldn't be all that hard, although at my current age I'd have a good local shop do it should a head gasket ever be required,

Sounds good, then!
 
[Note: An "old-guy yells at cloud" type of rant to follow-- not directed at specifically you and I do appreciate the question.]

I see this type of question all the time-- in fact, one just came up this morning. I understand that I'm old and probably out of it, but I just don't get these types of questions.

First, I'll answer you directly: The Mitsubishi Mirage does great at over 80 mph, something I confirm on a regular basis as interstates in my area have 75 mph speed limits and I regularly see 80 when passing. They have good pickup from 75, and they handle fine over 80. Absolutely no problem.

I've never calculated actual mileage, and I don't drive with the transmission at the high-mileage setting (see below), so I'm sure I don't get the EPA rating (but I don't know what I'm actually getting for mpg)

To answer another common question (that you didn't ask), they are absolutely not "slow" (in any reasonable sense of the word). They are quite peppy in town (at least with the CVT), and that peppiness in town combined with the good performance at speed on the highway makes the Mirage a surprisingly satisfying (and even fun!) car to drive under any condition.

[Side Note: One way to wake the CVT version up is to aways drive it in "Ds" setting. That allows it to run at significantly higher rpm in all conditions and gets rid of the constant low-speed lugging that you get when driving in "D" mode. Performance (and fun!) is greatly improved in "Ds." People test driving the Mirage in "D" might account for much of the reporting that they are "slow."]

The only negatives I've found are that I live in the windy upper plains, and they really suffer badly from buffeting in strong winds. This is more a reflection of the low weight (a great benefit for economy) than an inherent design flaw.

Also, plenty of engine noise in the cabin. This is generally a negative, but to me it's fun: that 3 cyl. sounds to me like a DD 6V71-- and I mean that in a good way! Love listening to that thing "roar!" To me, that sound beats the sound of a Fit any day of the week!


More generally speaking, and I guess this is because I grew up in a different era, but I just don't get all the sneering I see today at cars that don't have some huge hp number.

In the early 1980s, the Honda Accord was really making a name for itself as a nimble, peppy, flickable, satisfying, fun-to-drive car that would still serve as the family truckster.

HP in those early '80s Accords? 75-- three less than the Mirage in a car that weighed over a hundred pounds more and had more frontal area to contend with.

A 1982 Cadillac Cimmaron-- at the time reviewed as a decently sporty offering from Cadillac (despite the J-car roots) made 85 hp. The base Cavalier made 90 hp.

The new BMW 318i made what us young guys thought was crazy-good hp: 101! We were pretty impressed that it "broke a ton!"

Regardless of what anyone might think today about the performance or desirability of any of those cars, could you imagine anyone in those days asking, "will an Accord do ok on the interstate?" "Is a Cavalier or Cimarron too underpowered to drive in town?"

Anyone in those days would have responded "uh... yeah... an Accord will go on the interstate just fine, duh!" and "What are you talking about? Yes, of course the Cimmaron or Cavalier have perfectly adequate power for in-town driving!"

I suppose today the same questions would have been asked of the 101 hp 1982 BMW-- "is it even drivable? Sounds like it would be a total dog! Would it even go 80 mph?" It's just nuts...

To me and my experience driving many, many cars that were under 100 hp yet well-respected performers in their day, I'm just blown away by the curiosity of today's whippersnappers as to whether a 78hp, 2,073 lb. car is even drivable.

Ugh... it's not only drivable, it's actually a hoot to drive-- in the go kart/hooligan/rural stockcar short-track sort of way!

I've driven a Fit many times-- totally different (and very good) experience, like a beautiful string quartet playing Beethoven. That's fine, but it's not the punk rock-type of fun you get in a Mirage-- and I'll take The Clash over Beethoven any day! :D

I generally don't respond to questions about the Mirage because everyone tends to jump in and immediately confirm that it's painfully slow, loud, a horrible performer, and basically a car to avoid if you can find anything else.

I'm in such disagreement with those sentiments (and so far out of the norm on automotive performance opinion) that I generally just keep out of it let everyone have at it. While I don't dispute that the Fit is objectively better than a Mirage, I don't agree that a Mirage is some sort of disaster. I actually prefer the Mirage over the Fit.

I understand that few will agree with me on that last point, and that's fine with me. I'll just keep quiet and enjoy the Mirages I have!
Thanks, I wasn't asking to throw stones. Genuinely curious becuase I drive a lot of interstate miles where traffic is moving 80-90 for hundreds of miles. I drove a altima and forte both got 30+ at 80mph and were quiet.
 
Thanks, I wasn't asking to throw stones. Genuinely curious becuase I drive a lot of interstate miles where traffic is moving 80-90 for hundreds of miles. I drove a altima and forte both got 30+ at 80mph and were quiet.

No problem, as I said none of that was directed specifically at you (and I did try to answer your question before the rant started).

(And in response to your Altima and Forte experiences of quiet travel at speed-- the Mirage definitely will not be quiet at interstate speeds!)

Just consider it a little Festivus "airing of the grievances" on my part! 🎅

Have a good one! 🍻
 
@Jim Rogers I got a well used '86 Z51 with the clunky 4+3 Doug Nash trans. Then I bought a new '90 black on black 6 speed.
After about a year I sold the 90 because it was just too much money. Got a 70 Coupe with a CRR LS6 engine. Sold that and got my Plain Jane 68 L36 Roadster. It is up in Washington now at my BIL's house. Here's his 62 Fuelie show winner. Big bucks in that one... My car was pretty bad when I got it.
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@Jim Rogers I got a well used '86 Z51 with the clunky 4+3 Doug Nash trans. Then I bought a new '90 black on black 6 speed.
After about a year I sold the 90 because it was just too much money. Got a 70 Coupe with a CRR LS6 engine. Sold that and got my Plain Jane 68 L36 Roadster. It is up in Washington now at my BIL's house. Here's his 62 Fuelie show winner. Big bucks in that one... My car was pretty bad when I got it.

Really nice!

While I appreciate what you (and your BIL) have, that wouldn't be for me. Mine are near daily drivers, and that's one of my rationales for getting two-- I would have one to drive if I needed to work on the other.

One nice thing about C4's (compared to C1-C3) is that they're not considered to be particularly rare or precious, they don't attract a ton of attention when I drive them, the world wouldn't come to an end if I totaled one, and it's fine if they have some door dings and such (and they do!).

The total cost of driving, maintaining, and insuring them are pretty low as a direct function of all of those factors.

In short-- exactly my style and in keeping with what the OP was expressing.

Thanks for sharing yours! 🍻
 
Really nice!

While I appreciate what you (and your BIL) have, that wouldn't be for me. Mine are near daily drivers, and that's one of my rationales for getting two-- I would have one to drive if I needed to work on the other.

One nice thing about C4's (compared to C1-C3) is that they're not considered to be particularly rare or precious, they don't attract a ton of attention when I drive them, the world wouldn't come to an end if I totaled one, and it's fine if they have some door dings and such (and they do!).

The total cost of driving, maintaining, and insuring them are pretty low as a direct function of all of those factors.

In short-- exactly my style and in keeping with what the OP was expressing.

Thanks for sharing yours! 🍻
The C4's are nice cars. I bet you would love my 90 6 speed. I just couldn't afford it at that time. Nowadays, for performance and fun, our Tesla is as good as it gets for the money.

I am heading up soon to the great state of WA to see my old Ghetto Ride. My BIL has that eye for detail and patience for days.
 
Thanks, I wasn't asking to throw stones. Genuinely curious becuase I drive a lot of interstate miles where traffic is moving 80-90 for hundreds of miles.
I consider myself fortunate that that is not the case where I live. MPG falls off quick at speeds like that regardless which car I am driving. Rural Interstate speeds limits here are 70 but I tend to think about 95% of the drivers keep it to about 75 maximum. Obviously there's always a few outliers going much faster.
 
The C4's are nice cars. I bet you would love my 90 6 speed. I just couldn't afford it at that time. Nowadays, for performance and fun, our Tesla is as good as it gets for the money.

I am heading up soon to the great state of WA to see my old Ghetto Ride. My BIL has that eye for detail and patience for days.

Sounds like you have a nice combination of old (Corvette) and new (Tesla) performance technology-- that's really great!

Yep-- I like '90 Corvettes. Keeps the L98 and the convex rear end (which I much prefer!) but gets the new dash.

That's a very nice combination-- also a bit of a one-off! Too bad you had to get rid of it.


Mine '85s have the 700R4 which, honestly, I prefer. I've had many manuals (and my truck still is), but I'm kind of sick of them now. Must be old age.

The 700R4 is great because it has a super-low 1st gear that works really low with the high-stall TC the '85s came with. Just seems to shift perfectly all the time and always keeps the rpms right in the perfect range to feel that TPI resonance induction kick in.

Just love it!

I also had a 2013 GS that I bought new (another end of year leftover, with the C7's starting to roll in). Here's a pic of it (and the twin '85s):

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That was a great car, and I really liked it and was 100% reliable, but I sold it a few years ago. Mostly in preparation for retirement, but also because-- I kid you not-- I actually prefer driving the '85s!

Circling back to my "low hp car rant" above-- if that was seen by anyone as either sour grapes for not owning a high-powered car or lack of experience driving powerful cars, believe me, I know what it feels like to drive a car that has big power!

And I still contend that the Mirage is very peppy and fun to drive! :D
 
Mine '85s have the 700R4 which, honestly, I prefer. I've had many manuals (and my truck still is), but I'm kind of sick of them now. Must be old age.

The 700R4 is great because it has a super-low 1st gear that works really low with the high-stall TC the '85s came with. Just seems to shift perfectly all the time and always keeps the rpms right in the perfect range to feel that TPI resonance induction kick in.

Just love it!
The 700R4 is the way to go, IMO. When I was younger, I had to have a manual. Enjoy your Corvettes! If I had more garage, I just might have one... But that ain't gonna happen around here.
 
@Jim Rogers if we live long enough we all get too old to be able to work on our cars any longer. What's your plan for that since the plan is to keep them for the rest of your life?

That's a great question, the answer to which I believe is not a simple switch to flip, but a life-long commitment to be lived up to and earned.

The simple version of the answer: I plan to stay fit and healthy enough to be able to work on (and enjoy!) all these vehicles, as well as maintain my land and farm. While it's never too late to start looking after one's health, it's best to start in one's youth, and that's what I've done and plan to continue until I die.

The TL; DR details of the answer:

--Physical Fitness: I've been an avid weightlifter for decades. I'm 61, yet I maintain the strength standards of a much younger man. I have a simple, compact, yet very effective home gym (power rack, barbell and dumbbell sets). At my current age of 61, I don't compete and am not trying to increase my totals but rather I strive maintain good strength standards as I age.

Those standards are not universally agreed upon, but I've always liked the 1, 2, 3, and 4 plate standards (i.e., the number of 45 lb. plates on each side of the bar). So, overhead press 1 plate (135 lbs.), bench press 2 plates (225 lbs.), squat 3 plates (315 lbs.), and deadlift 4 plates (405 lbs.). Again, those are not competitive amounts to lift, but great standards to maintain at my age and I have maintained them for years (note, however, that just last week I did my annual tests and I'm a down a fair amount this year on my squat and dead lift-- I'll be working hard in 2025 to get them back up to standard!).

Even young men can't even come close to those lifts if they don't lift regularly, so for every day-types of physical exertions, I have more than enough physical strength. That pic of the F-150 loaded to payload with 60 lb. bales? I do several of those loads every harvest (which is 3 times/year) and load it all by hand-- no struggle, no back problems. And that's after cutting, raking and baling it all with a walk-behind tractor!

I also do a bit of running-- just enough to maintain what I consider to be a good standard for that: the ability to run a 10K in the minutes equal to your age. I'm 61 and can do a sub-1-hour 10K, which isn't particularly impressive, but I'm at least a minute below the 61-minute standard for my age. Most 61-year-olds couldn't even complete a 10K, so sub-1-hour? Good enough!

--Diet: I eat a highly controlled diet based on a proper balance of macro- and micro-nutrients to maintain my weightlifting. Never set foot in a restaurant, and rarely (maybe once a year at a party?) consume alcohol. I take no drugs (recreational or prescription).

This diet, btw, not only has health benefits, but it's purposely based on very cheap basic staples from the grocery store, so it saves a ton of money. Total daily nutrition for me costs roughly $7/day total, depending on prices. Most would find it boring and monotonous, but it's perfect for both my health and my current no-income retirement. As a strong practitioner of gratitude (see below), I actually take great joy in every one of these simple meals and never desire anything more.

--Sleep Hygiene: Although I'm not overweight, severe sleep apnea runs in my family, and I have it as well. So, I use a CPAP religiously, go to bed every night (7 days a week) at 9:30, and always awake naturally (no alarms) so as to be able to complete the final REM cycle of the night (which I feel is the most important).

--Mental Health: I'm a retired math professor and still work on some math research projects in retirement to keep the brain active and stave off dementia. As you might understand from my appreciation of even simple things that many others look down upon (e.g., Mitsubishi Mirages), I am a strong practitioner of gratitude. I believe happiness is a state of mind not at all related to what you own.

As such, I've always been very happy with whatever my lot has been in life (and I've been very low-income many times in my life-- often by choice!). This goes a long way towards maintaining mental health into old age.

--Good Marriage: I've been married to the same woman for 40 years (we married young). She practices all of the above (lifts weights, controlled diet, same sleep habits, and is mentally acute-- holds a Ph.D.). Also, totally hot (I married way above my looks!). It really helps to have a life partner that you not only find to be attractive but also shares your lifestyle goals and habits.

--Lucky Genetics: Both my parents are alive and in their early 90s, married for 65 years, are in excellent health, still live in the house I grew up in, still drive, and have no dementia. My dad (who was an auto mechanic, thus my life-long interest and experience in working on cars) was touring his Goldwing nationally into his mid-80s. His mother lived until 106! My mom prepared yesterday's Xmas dinner for the whole family. So, I'm thinking I have good genetic potential for long life, which explains why I focus on fitness-- I want to be able to take advantage of that potential long life!

So, those are my plans to not only live a long life, but to maintain a high quality of life that will allow me to maintain vehicles well into old age. If I live as long as my parents and grandparents, that should be at least another 30 years!

That's a lot of oil changes, so you can see why I'm here trying to get that figured out! :)



With all this background information, you can probably now understand why I so enjoyed the OP here by @Alex_V , the closing line in particular:

Close up shop on Christmas eve-evening, crank up my 220K-mile Mercedes 300D, drive home and park next to the 376K-mile CRV, behind the 331K-mile Suburban. Life could be better but at least I'm not stranded by parts that were never designed to last in the first place.

Such a healthy and sane approach to not only vehicles, but to life itself-- love it!

Waking up to that on Xmas morning just made my day! 🍻 to you, Alex!
 
I’ve owned my Club Sport since new and I plan to keep it till they pry it from my cold dead fingers. That said, I like having at least one relatively new car on my side of the garage. I usually keep the newer ones for 6-8 years at which point I start looking for a (usually significantly faster) replacement. I’m hoping to hold on to the Jeep as long as possible since I need something that can pull a tree off the farm road- or else drive around/over it (I kept my TJ for 21 years).
 
That's a great question, the answer to which I believe is not a simple switch to flip, but a life-long commitment to be lived up to and earned.

The simple version of the answer: I plan to stay fit and healthy enough to be able to work on (and enjoy!) all these vehicles, as well as maintain my land and farm. While it's never too late to start looking after one's health, it's best to start in one's youth, and that's what I've done and plan to continue until I die.

The TL; DR details of the answer:

--Physical Fitness: I've been an avid weightlifter for decades. I'm 61, yet I maintain the strength standards of a much younger man. I have a simple, compact, yet very effective home gym (power rack, barbell and dumbbell sets). At my current age of 61, I don't compete and am not trying to increase my totals but rather I strive maintain good strength standards as I age.

Those standards are not universally agreed upon, but I've always liked the 1, 2, 3, and 4 plate standards (i.e., the number of 45 lb. plates on each side of the bar). So, overhead press 1 plate (135 lbs.), bench press 2 plates (225 lbs.), squat 3 plates (315 lbs.), and deadlift 4 plates (405 lbs.). Again, those are not competitive amounts to lift, but great standards to maintain at my age and I have maintained them for years (note, however, that just last week I did my annual tests and I'm a down a fair amount this year on my squat and dead lift-- I'll be working hard in 2025 to get them back up to standard!).

Even young men can't even come close to those lifts if they don't lift regularly, so for every day-types of physical exertions, I have more than enough physical strength. That pic of the F-150 loaded to payload with 60 lb. bales? I do several of those loads every harvest (which is 3 times/year) and load it all by hand-- no struggle, no back problems. And that's after cutting, raking and baling it all with a walk-behind tractor!

I also do a bit of running-- just enough to maintain what I consider to be a good standard for that: the ability to run a 10K in the minutes equal to your age. I'm 61 and can do a sub-1-hour 10K, which isn't particularly impressive, but I'm at least a minute below the 61-minute standard for my age. Most 61-year-olds couldn't even complete a 10K, so sub-1-hour? Good enough!

--Diet: I eat a highly controlled diet based on a proper balance of macro- and micro-nutrients to maintain my weightlifting. Never set foot in a restaurant, and rarely (maybe once a year at a party?) consume alcohol. I take no drugs (recreational or prescription).

This diet, btw, not only has health benefits, but it's purposely based on very cheap basic staples from the grocery store, so it saves a ton of money. Total daily nutrition for me costs roughly $7/day total, depending on prices. Most would find it boring and monotonous, but it's perfect for both my health and my current no-income retirement. As a strong practitioner of gratitude (see below), I actually take great joy in every one of these simple meals and never desire anything more.

--Sleep Hygiene: Although I'm not overweight, severe sleep apnea runs in my family, and I have it as well. So, I use a CPAP religiously, go to bed every night (7 days a week) at 9:30, and always awake naturally (no alarms) so as to be able to complete the final REM cycle of the night (which I feel is the most important).

--Mental Health: I'm a retired math professor and still work on some math research projects in retirement to keep the brain active and stave off dementia. As you might understand from my appreciation of even simple things that many others look down upon (e.g., Mitsubishi Mirages), I am a strong practitioner of gratitude. I believe happiness is a state of mind not at all related to what you own.

As such, I've always been very happy with whatever my lot has been in life (and I've been very low-income many times in my life-- often by choice!). This goes a long way towards maintaining mental health into old age.

--Good Marriage: I've been married to the same woman for 40 years (we married young). She practices all of the above (lifts weights, controlled diet, same sleep habits, and is mentally acute-- holds a Ph.D.). Also, totally hot (I married way above my looks!). It really helps to have a life partner that you not only find to be attractive but also shares your lifestyle goals and habits.

--Lucky Genetics: Both my parents are alive and in their early 90s, married for 65 years, are in excellent health, still live in the house I grew up in, still drive, and have no dementia. My dad (who was an auto mechanic, thus my life-long interest and experience in working on cars) was touring his Goldwing nationally into his mid-80s. His mother lived until 106! My mom prepared yesterday's Xmas dinner for the whole family. So, I'm thinking I have good genetic potential for long life, which explains why I focus on fitness-- I want to be able to take advantage of that potential long life!

So, those are my plans to not only live a long life, but to maintain a high quality of life that will allow me to maintain vehicles well into old age. If I live as long as my parents and grandparents, that should be at least another 30 years!

That's a lot of oil changes, so you can see why I'm here trying to get that figured out! :)



With all this background information, you can probably now understand why I so enjoyed the OP here by @Alex_V , the closing line in particular:



Such a healthy and sane approach to not only vehicles, but to life itself-- love it!

Waking up to that on Xmas morning just made my day! 🍻 to you, Alex!
I genuinely wish my father watched over his health as much as you do. My dad is about ready to say he won’t travel anymore to meet us for family get togethers. He says the driving is too hard on his back. But his brother is only a year younger but is fit enough to go on big multi-day hikes.

It sucks because I want my dad to enjoy family stuff together with my kids, but he won’t because he has all these health concerns. He just doesn’t take care of himself as well as he should.
 
These posts share the same sentiment I have for my 1991 Toyota Previa. We’re all sickos for simple cars.

I have the same mental obsession. When I bought the Previa, I offered the seller more than he was asking because I had to have this van. It was a 5 speed manual. Extremely rare.

Even more obsessive, I spent $3000 replacing the 200k engine with a low miles JDM engine + a bunch of other OEM parts. The engine needed it because the prior owner never replaced the coolant, leaving a rusty swamp inside the cooling system.
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I did the work myself because we obsessive types are like that. These vans have legendary reliability, so it was worth it to me.
 
Now that I am working at the shop that only does Euro cars customers often ask me/Us what we drive Expecting us to drive some fancy or vintage euro cars

They look at us funny when we point to the corner where we employees park. 3 Chevy trucks, my jeep,3 Honda's, and the only euro a Jetta.

They don't think it's funny when we say we need cars that will start every morning to get us to work

I get this at work at the parts store. If they ask me what I drive I usually just say something along the lines of "oh, I have a couple electric cars. Anyway...." because most people don't know what a Prologue is lol. Although most people do know what a Bolt is and immediately they no longer want to have anything to do with me because they make assumptions about me based on the fact my cars plug in. It's fine, though, I don't even like people or talking anyway haha :D
 
I genuinely wish my father watched over his health as much as you do. My dad is about ready to say he won’t travel anymore to meet us for family get togethers. He says the driving is too hard on his back. But his brother is only a year younger but is fit enough to go on big multi-day hikes.

It sucks because I want my dad to enjoy family stuff together with my kids, but he won’t because he has all these health concerns. He just doesn’t take care of himself as well as he should.

Sorry to hear that! In his defense, most people don't take that great of care of themselves and in many cases that's not due to some sort of personality flaw.

It takes some time and effort to get real fitness habits incorporated into one's life, and often times people are busy and stressed enough with their everyday life that they just don't have the time or energy. That's unfortunate, but understandable.

I don't know what his life situation is currently, but maybe you could encourage him to begin at least a simple/easy fitness routine?

My dad had a heart attack at age 40 and changed nothing in his life. He was overweight, a heavy smoker and had a severe case of undiagnosed sleep apnea.

In 1989 (age 55) he had a second heart attack and resolved to make changes: he quit smoking (cold turkey), the apnea was diagnosed (and treated with a CPAP), and he began a light exercise program that was provided to him by the recovery team at the hospital.

That exercise program involved extremely light (~10 lb.) dumbbell and stretching exercises, coupled with a daily rotation of riding a stationary bicycle/walking a treadmill/using a rower at low, steady intensity.

He bought all those items at garages sales for a couple hundred bucks and started the program he was given. Approximately 30 min total each morning while watching the morning news programs on TV.

The program seemed to me to not be even close to rigorous enough (certainly not in intensity of effort) to make any real health difference, but he's a pretty disciplined guy and has performed that exact same exercise routine literally every single day since the spring of 1990!

He records each session on paper in a 3-ring binder logbook-- that thing is about 4" thick! I've literally watched it grow over three decades...

I'll have to say that I'm impressed by the results. Even at 91 his walk is pretty normal, he flies up and down the stairs of their two-story house at the speed of most guys in their 50s, and he regularly helps load some pretty heavy things on/off my truck when I haul something for him. (Unfortunately, he never lost much weight, but that hasn't seemed to be a problem.)

Not only has he not had another heart attack, but his cariologist said that he has actually re-grown most of the vessels that were blocked and caused the original heart attacks-- his heart health is judged to be very good now. And that's with practically no real change in his (not particularly healthy) diet.

So, though I was skeptical at first, I'll have to say that that "state of the art in 1990" (i.e., seemingly pretty lame and out of date) exercise program has at least correlated with (and most likely has been the cause of) amazingly good health and long life in my dad.

Maybe you could help your dad attempt the same? Even just a little bit of exercise started late in life appears to have the potential to make a big difference!

These posts share the same sentiment I have for my 1991 Toyota Previa. We’re all sickos for simple cars.

I have the same mental obsession. When I bought the Previa, I offered the seller more than he was asking because I had to have this van. It was a 5 speed manual. Extremely rare.

Even more obsessive, I spent $3000 replacing the 200k engine with a low miles JDM engine + a bunch of other OEM parts. The engine needed it because the prior owner never replaced the coolant, leaving a rusty swamp inside the cooling system.
I did the work myself because we obsessive types are like that. These vans have legendary reliability, so it was worth it to me.


Awesome van! Really love those old Previas!

I absolutely would have replaced all the items you did, and for the exact same reasons!

🍻
 
Sorry for the delay-- was doing holiday dinner with the family! 🎅

As for my vehicles, the following are what I currently own. I'll give the backstories on each of them as they fit nicely with the philosophy you laid out in your OP:

-- 2 x 2017 Mitsubishi Mirages that are the daily drivers for the wife and me. Both CVT, so have the highest MPG of any non-hybrid sold in the U.S. The Mirage has technology and simplicity at about the level of Japanese econoboxes of the '80s and '90s and the reliability/ease of repair of Mirages really reflects that fact.

Specifically wanted 2017 models as an upgrade occurred after the 2014/15 models (that was desirable), but in 2018 the dashboard screen became standard (which was undesirable to me). Bought them both in 2023-- with diligent searching over a 500 mi radius, I found one with 15K original miles, and another with 7.5K original miles. Bought 'em both! Paid ~12K for each, which is a bit high, but given the mileage, condition, and the fact that I wanted 2017's specifically, I ponied up and got them.

The shortened block size that comes from omitting a cylinder (these are 3-cylinder cars) allows for a surprising amount of space in the engine bay. This makes everything (even on the front and back of the engine) very easy to get to without removing much of anything.

The Jatco CVT7 is very reliable in this car (it was designed for applications up to 150 hp, the Mirage has 78 hp), is very easy to remove, and surprisingly simple to tear down and rebuild. When the time comes, I'll do that myself.

These cars are well-documented to go 180-200K miles with little maintenance and few repairs, and even after that even the major repairs are pretty easy and straightforward. As I said, I plan to have these cars the rest of my life and will repair as needed rather than ever replace.

-- 2002 Ford F-150 XL, regular cab, 4x4, 4.2L V6, 5-sp manual. Old-school, pushrod V-6, manual transfer case. This is the one vehicle I bought new (cheap, left-over stock at the dealer since it was such a stripper). Not a single option on it other than 3.55 rear end (which was no-cost). Very spartan (e.g., rubber floor coverings) but dead reliable, and dead simple. It's never broken down on me in over 20 years.

I have a small hay operation and use it regularly for hay hauling. Here it is, loaded at payload limit (which it sees on a regular basis):

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--2009 Dodge Grand Caravan C/V, 3.3L V6, 41TE auto. I like vans for non-farm types of hauling, and this is about the smallest vehicle that will carry 4x8 sheets flat. It's a cargo version, so everything is super-simplified compared to the passenger versions. E.g., no rear seat climate control and single zone front climate control (rear and front dual climate control systems are notoriously buggy on these vehicles) and virtually no tech amenities.

The 3.3l pushrod V6 is as simple and old school as the Ford V6, and the similarly old school 4sp auto is pretty reliable as most of the bugs had been worked out by 2009.

Because this is a 5th gen GC, the engine bay is large (designed to handle the OHC V6s that were coming in 2011) but the old pushrod V6 that carried over for the first three years of this generation is very compact. That means that there is a surprising amount of open space, making repair work (even on the back cylinders) very easy if you get the 3.3L.

As an example, in this video, these guys change both head gaskets in a gen5 3.3L in a parking lot. Note that at 9:40 in the video, the say it took 45 minutes to get both heads off, and almost nothing else (e.g., PS pump, alternator, etc.) needed to be removed to do the job. Note that removing the rear head was no more difficult than the front-- impressive!

This type of information is what convinced me to look for a low mileage, gen5, 3.3L (i.e., 2008-2010) DGC C/V. In 2022, I found one with 46,000 original miles on it. It was an absolutely pristine time capsule, owned from new by the FBI in Arlington VA, and perfectly maintained. Not a spec of rust on the undercarriage-- looked like it had just rolled off the assembly line. Got it for $13K, and will own it the rest of my life, as with the others will be repairing any problems that come up rather than ever replacing it.

Here it is the day I got it home:

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--2 x 1985 Corvettes, L98 Gen I SBC. Bought both used in 2011. Both are two-tone bronze and are only 12 numbers apart on their VINs. They would have been within sight of each other as they went down the assembly line!

Didn't intend to buy two, but I found one that was all original, well-maintained and had 56,000 miles on it. Made a bit of a low-ball offer, the seller said they'd think about it, but didn't hear back for over a week. As I was waiting, I found the other one-- perfect condition Z51 with only 29,000 miles on it. Made the same low-ball offer as the first, the seller accepted immediately, and I brought her home.

The next day, the first seller responded that they would accept my offer. I was in the middle of typing a "sorry, you snooze you loose-- I already bought one!" type of email, then it dawned on me-- it's a great price on a great car, why not treat myself to both? So, I did! Paid $7K for each. Not a killer-good price, but well below what the sellers were asking. I specifically wanted 1985s, so, as I did with the Mirages, I ponied up and got 'em.

Why 1985s? Well, that gets to the heart of your OP. I am a totally captured member of what is known as the "1985 cult" in Corvette communities. Members of this cult are totally taken by the fact that 1985 was a very special, one-off year for Corvettes as they did not have any of the features of modernity such as: ABS, auto climate control, VATS, electronic transmission, pre-cats, air bags, or even a center high brake light! Tech-wise, it was very similar to any Chevy V8 car in the 1970's, and parts are fairly reasonable (cost and availability) as there is huge parts overlap with the 1985 Impala. The 1985 Corvettes are known for being simple and reliable.

So, all Corvettes before 1985 lacked those new-fangled technologies-- what makes the 1985 special? Beyond the last year to have forged (rather than cast) pistons and a stock 2050 rpm torque converter (pre-EPA requirement and a perfect match for the TPI intake), it has port injection-- the one nod to modernity that actually has performance benefit, is more reliable than a carb, and in many ways no more complicated to troubleshoot in the rare instance it has a problem.

1985's are the only model year of Corvette that has this combination of port injection and no other modern features, and that's what us cult members love about them. I have two, I love to drive them, they're easy to work on and, like the others, I'll own them the rest of my life! Here's a pic of one, taken the day I got it home (the other looks identical, so no need to show it):

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So, there you go-- every vehicle I own was a carefully selected model (and low-mileage used examples were purchased after an extensive search) specifically chosen to get all the simplicity and reliability that you nicely summed up in your OP.

Note that the effort I put into acquiring these vehicles and the long-term plans I have for keeping them are specifically why I have been active on this forum learning about oils/filters and have been fairly picky about which I'll use.

Given my new retirement financial situation and the strong desire to keep all these vehicles running for several more decades, I need to find the best oil change materials possible at the best prices I can get.

Thanks again @Alex_V for your OP-- as you can see, I really understood where you were coming from with it! 🍻
Very interesting roster, but each really does have merit. I owned a '03 T&C from 185K to 235K - about once a year I'd spend $3-600 on parts, give it a "spa day(s)", and go again. It wasn't in especially good shape when it was given to me, but none of the work I did was heavy repairs or internal work on the powertrain. I currently maintain four vans vintage 2007-2010 with the 3.3 or 3.8, ranging from 260K to 315K - they're all tired but the powertrains are all soldering on.

My dad has restored Corvettes since the late 80's - the C4 is on the new side for him but the '85-only things are pretty cool. And, full disclosure, I'm no fan of that generation F150 but the way yours is optioned is probably the most reliable combo available. I've seen a couple of those 4.2L's take some serious neglect and keep chugging, without the spark plug or exh. manifold issues the V8's present and more room in the engine bay, to boot.
 
The C4's are nice cars. I bet you would love my 90 6 speed. I just couldn't afford it at that time. Nowadays, for performance and fun, our Tesla is as good as it gets for the money.

I am heading up soon to the great state of WA to see my old Ghetto Ride. My BIL has that eye for detail and patience for days.

Do you have a photo of your L98 1990 Corvette ?

I remember when the C4 ZR1 came out and was in all car magazines.
 
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