The specifications of approval are 3-3.49cP. There is nothing to like or not like if oil meets that specification. LL01 and LL01FE are not LSPI rated. Both approvals do not have LSPI requirements. Specific LL01FE is available only from 2020, so we are not talking old oil blend.
We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. However, I simply think Motul is discontinuing and BMW knows before we do. That additive package will not pass SN+ or SP with that amount of calcium and Motul seems to be moving everything. Even though BMW has almost no LSPI issues I wouldn't run an oil with 3800 ppm of calcium in a B58 or S58. BMW doesn't have an LSPI test but in both US and and Europe from what I see of VOA/UOAs on various forums the oils the dealers are now filling are calcium+magnesium SP style additive packages.
Could be. I mentioned that above. However, the replacement product should be then approved before taking it down, which is the case with X-Cess GEN2 API SP. Also, this is specific product aimed strictly at BMW> Now, it could be that Motul is moving everything to one product. They did drop a number of "Specific" products. But do not forget that Castrol, for example, is not planning to discontinue 0W30. Actually, they updated the wording that it is suitable for LL01FE, and it is API SL oil.
This replaced the Specific for me last week when I searched S55. It’s an SP LL01FE. A bit lower HTHS like the BMW TPT.
cant have it all! i wish we had that castrol 0-30 in europe! our castrol 0-30 is not that stout! as we still dont have M1 0-40 sp yet also!
what if you do more miles before that 1 year OCI ,3000miles more for example ,will you still change it in a year?
if that is 5000miles/6 month ,yes that's what i do too.
which LM 5-40? bmw -shell europe is a fine oil, i use it right now. dont know about bmw castrol.
I put around 6k miles on the HPL fill last year. The interval in the US is the lesser of 10k miles or 1 year so I would go by that regardless. In any case I can't change my oil at home anyways so it's somewhat moot.
Castrol has LL01 approval and recommendation for LL01 FE.
Yes, for those that care about FE, technically Castrol doesn't have FE with just a recommendation. Not that anyone should care, but you know how it is.
.Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40?
This is what I meant. Though, I always find astonishing that although approved, they put: exceed.Yes, for those that care about FE, technically Castrol doesn't have FE with just a recommendation. Not that anyone should care, but you know how it is.
The list is probably not comprehensive or someone missed something. BMW probably has an intern making those lists
Yep, but it's Castrol's own "suitable", not an actual approval from BMW.
Yes, I indicated that before.
i am not searching for oils , i know the good ones that are sold in europe. but yeah ok, very good oil, i like shell oils both 5-30 and 5-40. bmw tpt which is shell 5-30 but custom made fro bmw ,as i was told,is in my engine now . no complaints.
In what region? The reason to use LL01 is warranty in North America and certain parts of the world if you don’t have GPF. Otherwise, use LL04.
why ll-01 is better for fuel dilution?
I don't think it would be and these engines aren't prone to dilution anyway
It has a stronger additive pack and can retain enough additives longer. However, that is not per se issue if ULSG is used. It could under certain circumstances make difference (a lot of short trips, stop and go), but generally it is non issue in the US since 2017.