if I decided to go with AMSOIL XL 5w-30 for a yearly oil change would AMSOIL pay if there was engine problems or failure ? Both YARIS still have the 3yr./36,000 mile bumper to bumper and 5yr./60,000 mile powertrain . Last , if AMSOIL does cover damage / failure , would I need a special oil filter for a yearly oil change or would the TOYO ( Denso ) oil filter be fine ? THANKS
AMSOIL : Guarantee engine failure ?
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With XL you HAVE to change it every 6 months.
Quote from Amsoil:
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AMSOIL XL Oils provide 7,500-mile/six-month drain intervals or longer where stated by vehicle manufacturers or indicated by oil life monitoring systems.
Your car (MFG) *states* 5k or 6 months and does not have an OLM.
I don't buy new cars to hassle with warranty.
I follow what the manual states until the warranty is over.
To each their own. But with XL you will be doing 2 OCI per year to have the Amsoil's warranty.
Bill
Quote from Amsoil:
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AMSOIL XL Oils provide 7,500-mile/six-month drain intervals or longer where stated by vehicle manufacturers or indicated by oil life monitoring systems.
Your car (MFG) *states* 5k or 6 months and does not have an OLM.
I don't buy new cars to hassle with warranty.
I follow what the manual states until the warranty is over.
To each their own. But with XL you will be doing 2 OCI per year to have the Amsoil's warranty.
Bill
With Toyota you'll be doing 2 oil changes a year!
We already had a member with a V10 motorhome find out the hard way that if you blow a motor and don't have proof of manufacturer stated oil changes, you're up a brown creek with no paddle...
We already had a member with a V10 motorhome find out the hard way that if you blow a motor and don't have proof of manufacturer stated oil changes, you're up a brown creek with no paddle...
My Honda dealer said "not to worry" about tracking oil changes and "even if there was a lubrication failure, they would probally just fix it anyway".
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With ANY engine related failure INSIST on a UOA that is drawn in YOUR PRESENCE. If the lubricant is proven to be the cause of the failure (in Amsoil's case) then Amsoil is picking up the tab. If the failure ISN'T lube related, then the manufacturer is picking up the tab.
..but do as most people do..
Wait until you have no coverage to dare go outside the lines. That way you're 100% naked when you do it. It inspires even more confidence in your actions.
..but do as most people do..
Wait until you have no coverage to dare go outside the lines. That way you're 100% naked when you do it. It inspires even more confidence in your actions.
Hey Drew99GT...what post was that on the motorhome...I missed that one. Thanks!
It was a while ago (3 or 4 years) - I doubt the search function would even catch it.
I found it!
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...true#Post553013
My take on the matter stands - a warranty is a written contract. Don't change the oil, or have proof you did, and you better be ready to sue the manufacturer into the ground to even get them to acknowledge you exist. Read the owner's manual! A judge sure will...
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...true#Post553013
My take on the matter stands - a warranty is a written contract. Don't change the oil, or have proof you did, and you better be ready to sue the manufacturer into the ground to even get them to acknowledge you exist. Read the owner's manual! A judge sure will...
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Originally Posted By: smokey1
if I decided to go with AMSOIL XL 5w-30 for a yearly oil change would AMSOIL pay if there was engine problems or failure ? Both YARIS still have the 3yr./36,000 mile bumper to bumper and 5yr./60,000 mile powertrain . Last , if AMSOIL does cover damage / failure , would I need a special oil filter for a yearly oil change or would the TOYO ( Denso ) oil filter be fine ? THANKS
No.
If you use the oil within Amsoil's parameters you don't have to use an Amsoil oil filter.
As stated you'll need to follow this:
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1490.pdf
And this:
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1363.pdf
if I decided to go with AMSOIL XL 5w-30 for a yearly oil change would AMSOIL pay if there was engine problems or failure ? Both YARIS still have the 3yr./36,000 mile bumper to bumper and 5yr./60,000 mile powertrain . Last , if AMSOIL does cover damage / failure , would I need a special oil filter for a yearly oil change or would the TOYO ( Denso ) oil filter be fine ? THANKS
No.
If you use the oil within Amsoil's parameters you don't have to use an Amsoil oil filter.
As stated you'll need to follow this:
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1490.pdf
And this:
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1363.pdf
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
My Honda dealer said "not to worry" about tracking oil changes and "even if there was a lubrication failure, they would probally just fix it anyway".
Make sure you get "your" Honda dealer to put that in writing.
"Your" attorney will need it later...
My Honda dealer said "not to worry" about tracking oil changes and "even if there was a lubrication failure, they would probally just fix it anyway".
Make sure you get "your" Honda dealer to put that in writing.
"Your" attorney will need it later...
Engine failures are never caused by bad oil unless you never change it and it is like mud. Other then that engine wear is gradual and catastophic failure can almost never ever be caused by the oil ( other mechanical components) ( and about impossible to prove that it was oil related). It will either be poor engine design, owner messed up and did not follow the manual but never ever the oil. And after 200,000 miles or longer the wear has simply done its job (no oil can stop wear) So oil warranties are nice on paper but in reality not really worth the paper they are printed on or the bytes they consume on a web site!
My 07 camary warranty says 6 months or 5,000 miles for oil change,ill stick with that.
Thanks Drew99GT for finding that post about that motorhome. I remember that well. In the end, she had to pay money out of her pocket and going through more than 6 month's grief.
I will agree with Bills post 100% the Amsoil is great oil but not needed in your engine if you are doing the warranty required oil changes . That said If you want to do the Amsoil thing run the full syn ,it is not that much per year and should do fine if you want to deal with any problem that could arise . Usually syn is a waste unless required by the mfg. or the long oil change intervals are done.
Originally Posted By: smokey1
if I decided to go with AMSOIL XL 5w-30 for a yearly oil change would AMSOIL pay if there was engine problems or failure ? Both YARIS still have the 3yr./36,000 mile bumper to bumper and 5yr./60,000 mile powertrain . Last , if AMSOIL does cover damage / failure , would I need a special oil filter for a yearly oil change or would the TOYO ( Denso ) oil filter be fine ? THANKS
if you used the XL7500 and changed it once a year with 15,000 miles on the oil and in your hand you have the UOA from that drain stating the oil is still good , there is no way verbally the manufacture can void any engine related warranty.
same goes for any brand oil/filter you use. UOA reports say alot more than a glove box stuffed full of days wasted getting oil changes...
if I decided to go with AMSOIL XL 5w-30 for a yearly oil change would AMSOIL pay if there was engine problems or failure ? Both YARIS still have the 3yr./36,000 mile bumper to bumper and 5yr./60,000 mile powertrain . Last , if AMSOIL does cover damage / failure , would I need a special oil filter for a yearly oil change or would the TOYO ( Denso ) oil filter be fine ? THANKS
if you used the XL7500 and changed it once a year with 15,000 miles on the oil and in your hand you have the UOA from that drain stating the oil is still good , there is no way verbally the manufacture can void any engine related warranty.
same goes for any brand oil/filter you use. UOA reports say alot more than a glove box stuffed full of days wasted getting oil changes...
I respectfully beg to differ. IMO lets say there was a major engine failure related to oil (odds highly unlikely), for the sake of arguement they could say 6 months or x miles PERIOD. The fact that the oil was in for lets say 1 year could create a problem costing the end user a lot of money in legal fees to resolve. I would rather not go there. Again my opinion.
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Frank D
And that's exactly what happened to the lady with the RV.
Murphy's law is a biatch.
Murphy's law is a biatch.
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
I found it!
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...true#Post553013
My take on the matter stands - a warranty is a written contract. Don't change the oil, or have proof you did, and you better be ready to sue the manufacturer into the ground to even get them to acknowledge you exist. Read the owner's manual! A judge sure will...
Wow, what a long and interesting read! I'd love to see a follow-up from her if she ever sued Ford for the $2000 that she was out. I certainly would of!
I found it!
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...true#Post553013
My take on the matter stands - a warranty is a written contract. Don't change the oil, or have proof you did, and you better be ready to sue the manufacturer into the ground to even get them to acknowledge you exist. Read the owner's manual! A judge sure will...
Wow, what a long and interesting read! I'd love to see a follow-up from her if she ever sued Ford for the $2000 that she was out. I certainly would of!
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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
I found it!
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...true#Post553013
My take on the matter stands - a warranty is a written contract. Don't change the oil, or have proof you did, and you better be ready to sue the manufacturer into the ground to even get them to acknowledge you exist. Read the owner's manual! A judge sure will...
Wow, what a long and interesting read! I'd love to see a follow-up from her if she ever sued Ford for the $2000 that she was out. I certainly would of!
She went more than TWICE the recommended OCI for that engine on conventional oil.
It's amazing the "oh my, something blew up because I didn't follow my maintenance schedule, better sue the manufacturer!" attitude that seems to follow people.
IF that failure had occurred and she had been following the correct OCI, Ford would have replaced the engine.
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
I found it!
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...true#Post553013
My take on the matter stands - a warranty is a written contract. Don't change the oil, or have proof you did, and you better be ready to sue the manufacturer into the ground to even get them to acknowledge you exist. Read the owner's manual! A judge sure will...
Wow, what a long and interesting read! I'd love to see a follow-up from her if she ever sued Ford for the $2000 that she was out. I certainly would of!
She went more than TWICE the recommended OCI for that engine on conventional oil.
It's amazing the "oh my, something blew up because I didn't follow my maintenance schedule, better sue the manufacturer!" attitude that seems to follow people.
IF that failure had occurred and she had been following the correct OCI, Ford would have replaced the engine.
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