Amsoil base stock

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary
Hi,
buster - You are correct - the question is raised often

It should be remembered that the "carrier" (base stock) makes up the major volume of the finished product

Sometimes we are led to believe that the "add ins" become the major volume. Very few automotive lubricants for example are even near 90% Group 5 - and these are usually not engine lubricants

This is why some Group 3 products perform as well as some products that are touted as Group 4 or 5 when in fact they contain very little of either. And, they are much cheaper too




Quote:
Carrier Oil

Oil (Petroleum), usually solvent neutral (SN) or process oil, used to "carry" or dissolve and/or disperse additives, which would otherwise be too viscous or even solid, and therefore not easily mixed with the Base Stock Oil.

 

[Doug Hillary]

Hi,
Pablo - Your rudeness shows. As for your 1) I did not speculate I asked an intelligent question because as as you put it;

"I'm fairly certain you have no detailed knowledge of Amsoil's formulations."

As for 3) well you got that wrong - the Topic is "base stock"
which is also called "carrier stock"

So please disregard the word "carrier" in my Posts and substitute "base" if you wish. Any answers now?

It is clear that you really don't know!

So what we do know is that some Amsoil products contain some Group 4 and Group 5 content. We simply do not know at what percentage!

You said;
"What angle are you driving at?"

I'm not driving at the moment but when I drive I drive it is usually at the angle the road leads me to - except on the bikes - then I lean at bit more!

 

[lazaro]

I wish I had some performance data on the XL7500 Amsoil. I will purchase some next order and will use it until the UOA says to change it. I am willing to bet it will last longer than 20,000 miles in my Taurus SHO, I have 27,000 miles/3 years on the ASL5w30 now and will be posting up a UOA soon.
I believe the XL7500 has 5% petrolium base if that, all petrolium additives are not of poor quality.
ever heard of OPTI2/4 oils? full petrolium and very high qualty and priced!

 

[Pablo]

I was not being rude at all. Please stop with that. You asked some fine questions and then you speculated. I don't see that as rude or not rude. It's just a fact.

Actually I will attribute Aussie use of the word "carrier" as different than USA use of the word "carrier". Base oil is base oil, carrier oil is as the definition I posted.

 

[Doug Hillary]

Hi,
lazaro - Going by Pablo's comments the Amsoil XL line is a Group 3 (hydro-cracked) petroleum product

If it uses a high quality base/carrier(Pablo) product (of similar quality to XM and Shell's XHVI)then it will probably perform as well as others that have a Group 4 or Group 5 content of some unknown ratio

Modern Group 3 products are quite exceptional performers at a very competitive price

 

[crinkles]

doug - which group 3 oils exist in australia and are available off the shelf at Big W or Super cheap?

 

[Doug Hillary]

Hi,
crinkles - Mobil's 3000 range (was Synth S etc), Shell's XHVI (Ultra) range and a number of others marketed here as "semi-synthetics"

Shell's Ultra range are all extremely good products. I know from extensive exposure to them over many years - in Porsche and other engines

 

[KW]

I am probably wrong but I understand it this way.

Base oil is the bulk of the oil.
Carrier oil is what is used to mix the additives into a solution then added to the base oil.

Please correct me if this it wrong.

 

[Johnny]

That's they way us yanks refer to it, but in other parts of the world "carrier" is sometimes referred to the base stock itself. It all just depends on where you are at.