Re-Looking at Amsoil for problem engines.(Ford Ecoboost and GM 5.3/6.2)

[Pablo]

Yeah to be clear, I'm not saying that a different oil would have done better. So it seems like it's an oil related failure to me, and Amsoil was in the sump.


I'm not sure it's negligence. He followed Amsoil's recommendations. And it failed.

Maybe Amsoil should say 1 year/25,000 miles*

*except in Honda J series engines with VCM.

Is that what you guys are saying?

No he didn’t follow and there is zero proof that he did

You can’t do extended oil changes on defective designs and then blame the oil.

 

[ltslimjim]

Yeah to be clear, I'm not saying that a different oil would have done better. So it seems like it's an oil related failure to me, and Amsoil was in the sump.


I'm not sure it's negligence. He followed Amsoil's recommendations. And it failed.

Maybe Amsoil should say 1 year/25,000 miles*

*except in Honda J series engines with VCM.

Is that what you guys are saying?

It boils down to whether any oil mileage claim is under any obligation to hunt down all such engines and situations not to use the oil in an extended drain fashion. They aren’t the engine manufacturers or the owners. Suitability is conditional to a general understanding your equipment isn’t having PROBLEMS…how is that on Amsoil? As @OVERKILL noted, this is common even following manufacturer’s recommendations. The oil isn’t the issue, it’s negligince or ignorance to design flaws and subsequent more frequent changes needed.

 

[Glenda W.]

IMO there’s more to the story. The cam is not oil related as that was a common problem then. Those engines are varnish prone but there’s chunks of carbon type material in the pics. To me it looks like serious neglect. Way more than 15k oci’s. Back then the Honda spec was syn blend. I’d bet oci’s were pushed for years on it and sometime more recent switched to Amsoil.

 

[tired]

It boils down to whether any oil mileage claim is under any obligation to hunt down all such engines and situations not to use the oil in an extended drain fashion. They aren’t the engine manufacturers or the owners. Suitability is conditional to a general understanding your equipment isn’t having PROBLEMS…how is that on Amsoil? As @OVERKILL noted, this is common even following manufacturer’s recommendations. The oil isn’t the issue, it’s negligince or ignorance to design flaws and subsequent more frequent changes needed.

Good points. Seems like the issue is more with blanket extended drain interval recommendations. Maybe Amsoil (or Castrol or Mobil 1...again I'm not singling out Amsoil here, @Pablo, as more than just Amsoil make the claim).

 

[tired]

IMO there’s more to the story. The cam is not oil related as that was a common problem then. Those engines are varnish prone but there’s chunks of carbon type material in the pics. To me it looks like serious neglect. Way more than 15k oci’s. Back then the Honda spec was syn blend. I’d bet oci’s were pushed for years on it.

Yeah, we are just taking the guy's word for it. I mean, he did have cases of Amsoil in the garage. Aside from receipts, not sure what else he could have done to prove it was changed annually. Maybe date-stamped video of him pouring it into the engine?

 

[Glenda W.]

Yeah, we are just taking the guy's word for it. I mean, he did have cases of Amsoil in the garage. Aside from receipts, not sure what else he could have done to prove it was changed annually. Maybe date-stamped video of him pouring it into the engine?

He was most likely running Amsoil at the time. We just don’t know the whole history.

 

[tired]

He was most likely running Amsoil at the time. We just don’t know the whole history.

That's true. Could have let it go over a year routinely and then claim in retrospect he'd always changed it every year.

I don't qualify for any warranties, but I think I will at least get a photo of me pouring oil into the car if I ever qualify in the future!