*Please suggest after market oil filter brand & series which have a different placement of the ADBV than what Fram uses ?
Well, the combo valve Ecores, & the base end bypass filters, not sure if the PH6607/7317 filters have them or not.*Please suggest after market oil filter brand & series which have a different placement of the ADBV than what Fram uses ?
I think I mentioned this in the other thread here that if Fram does pay, she might have to sign an NDA and keep the outcome confidential. I bet we'll never know.That a big pill to swallow, I hope Fram pays for the damage.
It isn't just one loose element, there have been quite a few, and that's just the ones caught.
This is how it works, if you question someone's honesty, do the search yourself first.Please provide sources for this claim.
I wasn’t the initial individual who questioned your claim but I did do some searches and I found some FRAM Ultra cartridges that had the filter media separate from the cartridge tube, a few canister gasket separations (one that lead to a double-gasket situation because of improper installation), a few weeping canister gaskets, and a couple of rattling canister filters caught before installation.This is how it works, if you question someone's honesty, do the search yourself first.
I said nothing about resulting damage, only rattlers which were several. Claim is not really the right word, it’s fact talked about several times in long drawn out threads. There is no question about what I said, it’s not my opinion, or “claim.”I wasn’t the initial individual who questioned your claim but I did do some searches and I found some FRAM Ultra cartridges that had the filter media separate from the cartridge tube, a few canister gasket separations (one that lead to a double-gasket situation because of improper installation), a few weeping canister gaskets, and a couple of rattling canister filters caught before installation.
Do we have any other major failures that resulted in damage? I’m not spotting any in my searches.
Fram seems to use the same bypass spring for all their filters. The Ultra needs a better spring because the element is heavier, or a different spring design altogether. It isn't just one loose element, there have been quite a few, and that's just the ones caught. Others went in and off and nothing happened except no oil filtering. Now that they know they should do something about it.
No need to be defensive. My post was supporting your initial claim. Also, yes, posting something without any supporting evidence is a claim.I said nothing about resulting damage, only rattlers which were several. Claim is not really the right word, it’s fact talked about several times in long drawn out threads. There is no question about what I said, it’s not my opinion, or “claim.”
Over the last 10 years I think there was one report of an oil filter many years ago doing some kind of actual engine damage reported by a member here, but I don't think it was a Fram. Of course there have been numerous reports of torn media, cut ADBVs, loose guts, closed louvers, paint over-spray on gasket area, etc, etc on various brands of filters.My question was separate from the supporting evidence for your claim which was do we have any examples of a FRAM Ultra failure causing damage?