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I do not understand why people choose to live in that environment plus the states destroy you're cars by the time they are paid off. Here are 2 shots I just took. My 02 jeep and 87 f250
Lol, perhaps because people have far more important reasons than how quickly their car may rust out?

Then you got cost of living and all that fun stuff. My 150K house would likely be 1M+ out in California and there is no way I would make that much more to offset that doing the exact same job (mechanical/aerospace engineering) to make up for it. We have a lot of guys at our place coming from California or other areas because they can have a far better living here in the Midwest.

So me having to buy a new car because it rusts out three times over, I'm likely still ahead then if I was out in CA ;)
 
I probably should have mentioned that I don’t hate New England, I hate the winter and salt. Winters can be great for some folks, I’m not one of them. I don’t like the cold, the long nights and short days. But the summers are good...the fall is beautiful and the spring is also one of my favorites around here.

But I’d love to never have to worry about rust again.
 
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Took the 2013 F150 through the cheap car wash so it doesn’t pressure wash the underbody. Don’t want the cosmoline to be washed off.
 
Canadians, aside from people in southern British Columbia, all have to deal with this problem. However, we have products to mitigate most of the rust. Having 4 seasons is a nice thing, as said before some of us enjoy skiing and skating outdoors. Additionally, layering of clothing prevents skin cancer, and for the extreme hot & humid southern states, you can't exactly take off all the clothes to deal with that issue,,,,eh?
 
Lol, perhaps because people have far more important reasons than how quickly their car may rust out?

Then you got cost of living and all that fun stuff. My 150K house would likely be 1M+ out in California and there is no way I would make that much more to offset that doing the exact same job (mechanical/aerospace engineering) to make up for it. We have a lot of guys at our place coming from California or other areas because they can have a far better living here in the Midwest.

So me having to buy a new car because it rusts out three times over, I'm likely still ahead then if I was out in CA ;)
Most of the overpriced houses you hear about are along the coast like in Malibu or near big cities like Sacramento or San Fran. Once inland house prices drop a lot. My house on 5ac appraised @ only $179k 2 years ago. Likely be millions if it was in Malibu with that much property.
 
I was born and raised here, I can’t leave now and relocate, but as soon as I retire? I’m out of here. My home heating bill is $500-$700 a month. Be nice to be rid of that (and the salt).
You must have electric baseboard heat exclusively or something? That seems ridiculous unless your house is 4500+ square feet or similar. Much colder here than where you are and my gas bills barely touch $100 in the winter.
 
They use it here but not nearly as much as up there. We always wash our cars if it gets any on there. Yesterday we went to middle Virginia and there was a lot more stuff up there than there was here in the southern part of the state so we washed the car immediately. I know how cars from up there are because my Escape is from Yonkers New York and the thing is falling apart underneath unfortunately we didn’t know it was from there when we bought it from my aunt. I’m going to redo the whole exhaust system on it because it’s so rusted out. And the fenders have some rust on them too. And the suspension is pretty rusty too which is what made the tone ring snap so hopefully it won’t be too hard to take apart I am worried I’m going to snap some bolts or something. We want to leave this state but not going up north for any reason at all we want to go more south. But we haven’t because we don’t want to give up our current jobs and don’t want to go thru all the hassle and we can’t afford to move currently.
 
It's hard to tell what color my cars are at this point. When it made it to 15 Thursday I found car wash open. Got the undercarriage spray included and drove it back to my garage immediately. My DD is caked and it's snowing again. Honestly, I don't think that salt does much stuck to the side of a car when it's zero out.
 
There's probably several pounds of salt and grit covering and settled in areas of my vehicles as the moment. Nothing you can do for a daily driver in the dead of winter. It is nice seeing the woolwax and fluid film has left a film over the door crimps and those type of areas, so you like to think that helps.
 
You must have electric baseboard heat exclusively or something? That seems ridiculous unless your house is 4500+ square feet or similar. Much colder here than where you are and my gas bills barely touch $100 in the winter.
Yeah, unfortunately my house is 6,000 square feet. Forced hot water, oil heat. Two oil tanks in the basement.

And when I say unfortunately, I don’t mean I’m unfortunate to have a house that big...I just mean unfortunately I have to pay for it.
 
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Wet salt at near 32'F is worse for your body rust than dry caked stuff.
I seriously think that it is probably better to just let the salt sit on the vehicle until you expect a week or more of clear weather. Is it better to rinse the salt off every three days or so, only to have it covered again the next day? High pressure washing might even be worse - blasting salty water into tiny nooks and crannies where it may not get rinsed out. And, the more often you touch the paint with all that grit on it, the more damage occurs with micro scratches.

I really think that frequent winter washing is a feel-good type of activity. If you apply my logic above (faulty?), it might be worse for the car, just like parking it in a heated garage is worse. Just my two cents.

Late EDIT: My current near 8-year-old car gets Krowned annually. So far, I am generally pleased with it. Not perfection, time will tell.
 
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They use it here but not nearly as much as up there. We always wash our cars if it gets any on there. Yesterday we went to middle Virginia and there was a lot more stuff up there than there was here in the southern part of the state so we washed the car immediately. I know how cars from up there are because my Escape is from Yonkers New York and the thing is falling apart underneath unfortunately we didn’t know it was from there when we bought it from my aunt. I’m going to redo the whole exhaust system on it because it’s so rusted out. And the fenders have some rust on them too. And the suspension is pretty rusty too which is what made the tone ring snap so hopefully it won’t be too hard to take apart I am worried I’m going to snap some bolts or something. We want to leave this state but not going up north for any reason at all we want to go more south. But we haven’t because we don’t want to give up our current jobs and don’t want to go thru all the hassle and we can’t afford to move currently.
Those tone rings...oh man, I hate those things on those escapes. Always snapping and throwing an ABS light.
 
I seriously think that it is probably better to just let the salt sit on the vehicle until you expect a week or more of clear weather. Is it better to rinse the salt off every three days or so, only to have it covered again the next day? High pressure washing might even be worse - blasting salty water into tiny nooks and crannies where it may not get rinsed out. And, the more often you touch the paint with all that grit on it, the more damage occurs with micro scratches.

I really think that frequent winter washing is a feel-good type of activity. If you apply my logic above (faulty?), it might be worse for the car, just like parking it in a heated garage is worse. Just my two cents.
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way, so what I do, is I try to lightly spray the undercarriage with water. Just sort of a rinse, not high pressure or direct contact. And I don’t actually wash the paint often, just a fresh water sort of rinse. I’ll also spray the grill area pretty rigorously to get the salt out of the radiator and condenser fins...I believe this has actually helped me throughout the years, as I’ve never had to replace a corroded AC condenser or radiator (well, one radiator but it was 17 years old and had 290,000 miles on it).
 
Understood. I don't mean come off arragant. At least in my area we can pay off our car and drive it a few years with no car note. Buying over priced alcohol laiden gas with cracked dashes and no paint. Lol

You can do that here too, just get them sprayed. My parents are driving a 21 year old Expedition.
 
I share a touchless car wash pass with a few people so I can wash the car, including the underbody once a week

Makes a huge difference I think as I haven't had any rust issues as of yet with my 2009 bmw or 2016 honda.
 
I say the worst part, atleast here in central NY, is we get full salt and brine without snow this season. The most I’ve seen recently is like 8” in one fall which is nothing compared to years before.

I made sure my truck was fully under coated in November. Maybe it’s just me but it seems like they changed up the brine recently. I have NEVER seen my cars get this dirty after a day of use, and I used to be able to rinse the brine off. This year it sticks to just about every surface, including the roof, and requires agitation to clean off. My paint is protected with Turtle seal n shine.
 
Yeah, unfortunately my house is 6,000 square feet. Forced hot water, oil heat. Two oil tanks in the basement.

And when I say unfortunately, I don’t mean I’m unfortunate to have a house that big...I just mean unfortunately I have to pay for it.

The bigger the house the bigger the bill! I'm about 4k square foot and heating is something I'm not a fan of. I have a lot of IC Highhats and i found R30 in the attic with an alternating layer of R19 on top made a noticeable difference in retaining heat.

What I truly appreciate about where I live is the April through June doors and windows open and for the most part heaven for temps. AC July and August. Sept and Oct doors and windows open! November is just ugly and brown. Dec, Jan, Feb are oil $$$ months.
 
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