Rotella T6 Alternatives?
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What in the Heck are you talking about, there is no standard to defeat a wet clutch, cause its a stupid statement.
There is only a frictional gate to offer grip for a wet clutch, Jaso Ma MA2 ratings
Will an Jaso MB rated oil cause issues in some cutches on the limit of design capability? Absolutely!
Are there oils not rated as Jaso Ma Ma2 that actually work as well or significantly Better, Absolutely!
Im been very pleased with Mobil one super 1300 15w40, and its been tested with a High stressed clutch pack on the limit of capability, which means it will work very well with ANY motorcycle wet clutch , fear not.
People dont seem to realize, how much mechanical load a clutch Pack can take, will effect which oils can create mild slippage issues.
That mechanical load is going to vary amongst Motorcycle models.
Correct, but Rotella T6 doesn't show API SN rating.
You are right ... however SM is accepted . But strangely ... Jaso is not mentioned .... they are so confused , I have 4 books in front of me and one cant get a clear answer ... they really want to sell their overpriced junk ... so frustrating
The Guy you are replying to is correct. Jaso MB is not for a wet clutch , Only the MA rating meets the frictional gate, that jaso MB rated Motorcycle oil, is not meant for a wet clutch, But can be run in an engine, that is seperated from transmission wet clutch area.
Have I ever had a wet clutch slip on Redline Jaso MB rated oil ?? ABSOLUTELY!
Ive not really not come across any Diesil oils that caused clutch slip.
I have a motorcycle where the power out put stresses the clutch limitation, so too slippery an oil, and it will slip.
but the super 1300 ( even if not rated), is amongst the best with clutch grip , and is a semi syn. Mobil has a full syn diesil, but never ran it, mainly for risk of clutch slip, not in a hurry to try.
I have a motorcycle where the power out put stresses the clutch limitation, so too slippery an oil, and it will slip.
but the super 1300 ( even if not rated), is amongst the best with clutch grip , and is a semi syn. Mobil has a full syn diesil, but never ran it, mainly for risk of clutch slip, not in a hurry to try.
I have shared this before, diesel oils are pretty much the same. There is no magic or black magic pixie dust that makes any one of them more or less suitable for motorcycle. This becomes very entertaining at times the way this gets washed, rinsed and repeated.
Might try Delvac 15w40 in my VT750s if the Rotella T4 becomes scarce or pricey.
One reason I keep coming back to the T4 15w40 is that it has worked in every bike I've put it in over the past 25 years.
It’s been a while haven’t owned the metric bike since 2014 but I ran across your post and needed to comment.
I’ve tried many oils in my Suzuki and Yamaha bikes and my favorite was Super 1300 15/40
Summertime I would use a different brand 2050 just because it gets so darn hot here but other than that in my mind from what I remember, I actually felt the super 1300 was grippy for like of better words
I was just in Wally World yesterday, T4/T5/T6 are all now SN rated.
PDS’s online are from 2019 and not correct anymore.
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Too much controversy and changes. Switched to this:
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the problem is the price of super tech 10-40w 4 stroke oil has jumped to just under $9 a quart/ $36 per gal (up from $5.86 per qt less than 3 years ago) while oils like rotella t6 15-40w (which is api sn & jaso ma/ma2 rated) is $26 per gallon and spec wise 10-40 and 15-40 are so close it won't make a difference unless the bike is being ridden in extremely cold weather, plus i don't know about you but it really pisses me off that, just so they don't have to report a lower corporate annual gross sales figure to share holders from the 300 stores they closed walmart is artificially inflating prices throughout the remaining stores to compensate for the gross revenue they lost by closing so many stores besides, like super tech oil @ $36 per gal is worth more than branded oil from real oil companies....
Can't say I have seen a 10w40 or 20w50 Super tech MC analysis. I have used and posted a few times with M1 10w40 4T and 20w50 V Twin. M1 leaves nothing to be desired, and to me are the benchmark for shared sump oils.
Agree, years back I liked the Delvac in my Yahama 1300, nice and grippy on the clutch. No way would I use a 5/40 in a shared sump bike.
I got Valvoline full synthetic 10W-40 motorcycle oil on Amazon for less than that per quart.
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My bike only needs 3 quarts. Doesn't feel as bad. I wish they sold it in gallon containers, would be less.
I'm going to keep using it, shifts great, runs great, can get it easily.
I'm going to keep using it, shifts great, runs great, can get it easily.
Yup ... Seems like it went from $6 > $9 a quart in one jump. Heck, my local Walmart supercenter doesn't even carry it anymore.
The 15w40 semi syn super 1300 mobil 1, I have no issues with.
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