Apparently you haven't read and fully understand the JASO documentation and specs an oil needs to pass in order to meet JASO and be registered. JASO looks at the submitted data and test data. Do submitters lie? ... guess they could, but who knows. And I think there is something in the JASO documentation about false submissions.
But if a competitor tests their oil to see what frictional bracket it falls under, and finds the oil is nonconforming to the one it's labeled as on the bottle, JASO can't protect them. It would be actionable grounds for:
Again, regardless of you saying it doesn't, it does. I'm not arguing with you. I am pointing out an easily verifiable fact.
I can't speak for what happens in the fantasy world you've imagined. That sounds pretty icky.
I don't think you are grasping the context of that statement. Here are some snip-its from JASO T903:2023 document. They are talking about the JASO performance markings on the bottles and the "Marketing" of the oil to buyers, not the actual performance of the oil - all of that was already determined when the oil was officially submitted and registered with JASO (if it passed all the JASO requirements). These statements relate to a "market survey" to see if the companies making the oil have labeled the bottles in terms of performance (MA/MA1/MA2/MB) with the correct JASO registration logo and information called out in JASO T903. If JASO finds a discrepancy (ie, the bottles are marked wrong from what was submitted and registered), then JASO will ask them to correct the information on the bottles of oil to match what's on file for that oil. JASO really is "voodoo" with you it seems, lol.
So what's the big deal? You missed the part in section 6 where any marketing non-compliance found via the survey needs to be explained and possibly corrected.
Its not much different from PQIA doing random testing on API oils. You trust blenders' bottles stating they meet API SP are actually giving you an API SP - compliant product, no?
Seems you still can't really grasp the whole purpose behind oils that are JASO registered. You get all twisted up by JASO, even though you don't seem to even use any JASO registered oils. Seems your "testing" is to just dump some oil in the sump and see if the the clutch "works" ... maybe all your glazed clutch plates is from using non-JASO rated oil. You ever have nightmares about JASO?
At the consumer's expense? Where are you coming up with that? You think JASO doing a "market survey" to ensure the oils that are JASO registered are being marketed accurately is at the "consumer's expense". Fact is, they are trying to protect the consumer by ensuring the marketing of the JASO registered oils is accurate and aligns with the submitter's information on the oil(s) they are selling. I don't think you actually understand the purpose of the JASO Marketing Survey.
