Quality oil for Subaru Ascent FA2.4F

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Point is my "solution" works great. Evidence: zero carbon issues in use. Other VW owners have carbon-cleaned their 1.8T GDI during my ownership period. Maybe you should try it.
You’ve disassembled it and saw for yourself? That’d be a good evidence. Can you explain it to me, how exactly the additive makes it on top of the valves to clean them?
 
You’ve disassembled it and saw for yourself? That’d be a good evidence. Can you explain it to me, how exactly the additive makes it on top of the valves to clean them?
I have zero issues, why would I tear it apart - that is what I use the additives to prevent doing!
Magic. Just like your Noack.

OP - we need you to settle this, as we've sidetracked your thread too long. Flip a coin and let us know who "won" the internet today.
 
I have zero issues, why would I tear it apart - that is what I use the additives to prevent doing!
Magic. Just like your Noack.

OP - we need you to settle this, as we've sidetracked your thread too long. Flip a coin and let us know who "won" the internet today.
Haha! I think I’d have to side with most of your points surfstar made.

Though SlavaB I see what you’re getting getting at. Not all engines, fuel systems and even DI setups are made the same. There are so many variables it makes it difficult to say for sure that something that helps one vehicle may not help a different one. But these additives are only going to help, even if it’s minimal.

The way I’m looking at this info is what surfstar is saying is that it certainly won’t hurt to run those additives and seeing as the additives are $60 or less, it’s cheap insurance over the long run. Sure I could use redline, eneos, motul or royal purple at $60+ an oil change. Or I can get PP or M1, add the additives and save $30+ an oil change.

That’s how I see it.
 
You have numerous topics here, but pretty much they are more "stout" in every aspect. You will take 1% hit in MPG.
Look for oil with MB229.52 approval. Mobil1 ESP 5W30, Motul X-Clean+ 5W30.
I tried to keep it specific to the oil that would best protect the engine over the long haul. My main concern is preventing carbon build up as this is the first DI engine I have owned.

I did change topics to adding an oil catch can, but it has gotten side tracked from others as well. I’m still somewhat new to this forum.
 
I tried to keep it specific to the oil that would best protect the engine over the long haul. My main concern is preventing carbon build up as this is the first DI engine I have owned.

I did change topics to adding an oil catch can, but it has gotten side tracked from others as well. I’m still somewhat new to this forum.
Then, again, MB229.52.
 
Haha! I think I’d have to side with most of your points surfstar made.

Though SlavaB I see what you’re getting getting at. Not all engines, fuel systems and even DI setups are made the same. There are so many variables it makes it difficult to say for sure that something that helps one vehicle may not help a different one. But these additives are only going to help, even if it’s minimal.
yeah it is minimal, like 0%
the only thing it helps with is injectors
Honestly I'm surprised we still have to argue over this even after I've presented the DI engine structure diagram up there.
 
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OP, as you're noticing in real time here, BITOG is all about splitting hairs. All you really need is an SP/GF-6 oil in the recommended viscosity. You can also choose Euro oils and/or different viscosity if you like as it's doubtful they'd cause any issue. Lots of good oils out there.
 
OP, as you're noticing in real time here, BITOG is all about splitting hairs. All you really need is an SP/GF-6 oil in the recommended viscosity. You can also choose Euro oils and/or different viscosity if you like as it's doubtful they'd cause any issue. Lots of good oils out there.
Wemay is a living proof that the oil decision is not as important, probably ran everything but 0w16 in that Passat :)
 
Don't forget QSUD and it's newest replacement Full Synthetic which I have yet to see in local WM. It is a very good oil.
 
Wemay is a living proof that the oil decision is not as important, probably ran everything but 0w16 in that Passat :)
...and without trying to hijack the thread, I've got 6qts of 508 waiting for the next fill in the VW 😁
 
Good point on the oil filter!

I know higher viscosity oils than OE recommended have been discussed on quite frequently, but I’m not so keen on doing it on newer engines going to 0w20 or even 0w16. Mainly for the reason of the timing chains as PimTac had mentioned. Also on that issue is variable cam timing setups. The ECM is looking for and is programmed for specific pressures based on the oil viscosity. Changing oil viscosity can and will effect that system. By how much? Too many variables to account for, every manufacture and engine is different.
and what if I told you the same engine specs elsewhere in the world calls for 5w30 and other viscosities notwithstanding 0w20...simple CAFE garbage is at play here in US of A
 
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