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Not sure I'd call it amazing? They don't have much in the way of Euro offerings.
On the Group III/II+ front however, XOM produces their EHC products for just that purpose:
Not trolling, but all things being equal, why not just use SuperTech for everything?
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On the Group III/II+ front however, XOM produces their EHC products for just that purpose:
Most every car on the road would make it to 220k with bargain brand API rated oil if following the oem suggested OCIs.I’m actually OK with Super Tech however keep in mind that many companies meet the API specs and that’s it. Some companies, especially with continuous R&D programs, might beat those specs but it’s all hard to prove. For myself I have 220,000 miles on an engine that used various name brands of synthetic oils, none of which were Super Tech. If you have 220,000 miles on yours using Super Tech you can share bragging rights. It not...well......
Not all things are equal.. could stop right there.
ST is probably fine, I've never used it. I'd be fine with using it. But with the brand name deals, clearances and rebates the ST ends up being far more expensive. My oil stash, mostly built in 2020-2021, runs me now probably less than 50 cents per qt, maybe 10 cents per qt. No reason to pay $3 per qt for ST.
You know i've used ST synthetic in multiple vehicles over the years, 90's Olds/Buicks 3300 3.3L's come to mind, a SR20DE SE-R Nissan that would burn alot of oil due to bad valve stem seals. Never lost a engine due to it, and they ran very well.. on the 3.3L's, the 5W30 oil came out dark after a OCI, of say 5K, but the engines thrived an they never burned at drop, and ST synthetic cleaned them up nicely. Even in the SE-R that burned the 5W30 synthetic like it was going out of style, the engine cleaned up beautifully over 50K miles, and while oil consumption never got better, it never got worse either. You cant fix already worn out parts with oil, but you can slow it down.
So recap: I would use ST synthetic again, and not think twice about it, esp in a older high mileage car to save a few dollars, and extend the OCI's. Its a fine oil, and i guess they don't pay for marketing or fancy bottles, and pass the savings on to you.
In my current glass engine Hyundais,
(Okay they are NOT that bad lol) i do use M1 EP Synthetic and change it out every 5-7K miles, but if M1 is out of stock or something a need a oil change that day I would use ST for a OCI and sleep well at night.
So recap: I would use ST synthetic again, and not think twice about it, esp in a older high mileage car to save a few dollars, and extend the OCI's. Its a fine oil, and i guess they don't pay for marketing or fancy bottles, and pass the savings on to you.
In my current glass engine Hyundais,
(Okay they are NOT that bad lol) i do use M1 EP Synthetic and change it out every 5-7K miles, but if M1 is out of stock or something a need a oil change that day I would use ST for a OCI and sleep well at night.
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Many Non-Bitogers refuse to trust an oil they believe is made by WM.
Some Bitogers want easy access to PDS, SDS and a website to review what they've purchased not to mention contact information just-in-case.
Some Bitogers want easy access to PDS, SDS and a website to review what they've purchased not to mention contact information just-in-case.
I believe you could make that type of argument for many other products. “Product X” is good enough, why do we have all these unnecessary options? Because capitalism, competition and the free market are what made product “X” so cheap. I’m thrilled to have so many options. Not only do I have plenty of choices that I can’t really go wrong with, all the competition helps keep prices reasonable and stock plentiful. So yes, super tech will do you right. So will pennzoil, castrol, mobil1 and Quaker state. Enjoy trying them all.
In my case I just hate going into my local Walmart. I only purchase oil there when I’m in there for something else I needed. Otherwise it’s tractor supply or rural king.
In my case I just hate going into my local Walmart. I only purchase oil there when I’m in there for something else I needed. Otherwise it’s tractor supply or rural king.
Thanks for the great info! I'm sure the ST I use is mostly group III but I'm OK with that. And yea, WalMart doesn't show much interest in the foreign market. Just not a volume seller for them.
In a GDI (Hyundai) engine , Super Tech can possibly be an issue due to higher NOACK and higher VII's resulting in creating more intake valve deposits . Top synthetic oils such as Valvoline Advanced / Extended Protection , Quaker State Full Synthetic , Pennzoil Platinum and Mobil 1 are better in most GDI engines ... Used in a traditional MPFI engine I would have no reservations to run Super Tech D1/Gen 2 SP rated synthetic oils for a normal 5K mile OCI .
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You are quite welcome. I'm sure it varies by grade, but these Group II+ bases are pretty impressive in terms of what they allow. We know with WM it's all about the bottom line and if the blender can reduce their manufacturing cost while still being able to get the same performance and carry the same approvals, I'm sure they will.
We use HM ST syn in both of my high-mileage/older teenager's cars that get 5K or less miles a year. They don't make a Euro blend so that takes out the other 3 VWs if I was willing to run it in the first place. It's like the choice between "Fruit Loops" and the store-brand "Fruity-Os" to me. I wouldn't trust my higher-power modified/nicer vehicles with ST, the extra few bucks is worth it for a name brand oil from a company that you know puts in the R&D effort. Whether it's rebates or FCP's Lifetime Replacement for the Euro oils, you can get name-brand oils for less than ST with a little work if the cost is a concern. Certainly nothing wrong with ST oil or filters and they represent an immense bargain for the average driver if they DIY.
This is like asking a random selection of people what is the best food. The best food is keeps you in good health and with the energy needed to do the things you want to do. if that came in the form of a cheap green goo was scientifically proven to sustain you for the rest of your life, noone would eat it. variety is the spice of life. explains royal purple. 
Like I say, post when you have.
This is like asking a random selection of people what is the best food. The best food is keeps you in good health and with the energy needed to do the things you want to do. if that came in the form of a cheap green goo was scientifically proven to sustain you for the rest of your life, noone would eat it. variety is the spice of life. explains royal purple.
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Total nonsense.
Same driving conditions, same change interval, same filter, same fuel.....so, all things other than the oil itself being equal. How else do you compare something? By testing under different circumstances? Put 100,000 miles without changing one oil and compare it to another oil that's never been driven and say the 100,000 mile one is crap in comparison?
Maybe you should take your own advice instead of trying to sound smart.
Half (or more) of America doesnt know enough about their vehicle to be able to check the oil of change a flat, choosing oil is WAY beyond their ability.
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I dont see super tech on VW list of oils. I need 504 and 508 oils in 3 of my vehicles. Am I missing something or are not all things equal?
Pretty sure most people DO use ST or equivalent.
I mean by a wider and wider margin most people get their oil changed by some type of shop or another. Heck for the first couple years my wife did the "free" oil changes on her CRV at the dealer. They did not use "Honda" oil. They did not even use bulk brand name top tier oil. Man I think ST might be a step up from unknown, verbal, bulk oil.
Mentioned already, but essentially this, now with Amsoil 0W-30 in her crankcase - OMG don't need to rush to the dealer (now 80 miles away).......I can either just reset the OLM, change it, change in 2-8 weeks. We have the means, we have a life. Choose wisely.
I mean by a wider and wider margin most people get their oil changed by some type of shop or another. Heck for the first couple years my wife did the "free" oil changes on her CRV at the dealer. They did not use "Honda" oil. They did not even use bulk brand name top tier oil. Man I think ST might be a step up from unknown, verbal, bulk oil.
Mentioned already, but essentially this, now with Amsoil 0W-30 in her crankcase - OMG don't need to rush to the dealer (now 80 miles away).......I can either just reset the OLM, change it, change in 2-8 weeks. We have the means, we have a life. Choose wisely.
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