Bought a couple jugs online because of this thread.
Well... there are different cultural norms depending on which Walmart you visit. In New York Ci$23.98? I haven’t been to Walmart in quite a while (thank god), but last I was there, I believe $23.98 would be the lowest priced 5 quart jug of synthetic they have on the shelf? Am I wrong? Or is Super Tech less than that?
But the last time I was in Walmart one of the workers by the door was loudly complaining that “there’s another one questioning why I‘m asking to see their receipt”. This went on for a loud five minutes, before I said...they’re questioning it because legally they don’t have to show you that receipt, it’s their property at that point, and if you suspect theft you can retain them and call the police, but they can legally refuse to show you their receipt if they want. She said I was wrong, and then told me to go F myself. Right in front of everyone. Never had that happen before
I bought 30 quarts of Kirkland 5W-30 synthetic for $19 per 5-quart jug. I had a $500 Costco gift certificate which was part of the calculus but about $20 per 5-quart is the bottom end of the upper end around here.$23.98? I haven’t been to Walmart in quite a while (thank god), but last I was there, I believe $23.98 would be the lowest priced 5 quart jug of synthetic they have on the shelf? Am I wrong? Or is Super Tech less than that?
But the last time I was in Walmart one of the workers by the door was loudly complaining that “there’s another one questioning why I‘m asking to see their receipt”. This went on for a loud five minutes, before I said...they’re questioning it because legally they don’t have to show you that receipt, it’s their property at that point, and if you suspect theft you can retain them and call the police, but they can legally refuse to show you their receipt if they want. She said I was wrong, and then told me to go F myself. Right in front of everyone. Never had that happen before
Aren't VW 504/507 oils 20k miles oils?
They are tested and rated to 650 engine hours. Just multiply your average speed by those 650hrs and get the miles.
Say your average speed is 30m/h, 650*30=19500 miles.
Where average speed takes into consideration not only time you move but also when you idle.
I went over 17k on PUP that people seem skittish to run 5-6k on for some reason. Some people would be amazed what oils can do if they rely on unemotional data rather than histrionics and groupthink.
Just look at what @dnewton3 has done with “unworthy” conventional oils- churning out great numbers at distances farther than most people on the board will run full synthetics! Because he uses data and not emotions!
There were no 3k samplings done. I started in the 9k range, drained & did UOA, then increased in about 5 steps to the 13k range (all drain & fills) and finally got over 17k. That took over 100k miles of driving to complete, but there was not one engine issue at all.I also have many other more interesting hobbies than drawing oil samples every 3k miles and sending them off. But I certainly respect those that do as it is helpful to the community.
Inflation humor!
So you've got two SOPUS products as top tier but not Mobil or Castrol with two?Me. My logic is that there are specialty/boutique oils like Amsoil, HPL, Redline, then top tier mainstream oils, like Castrol, Pennzoil, QSUD, Mobil, then there is all the rest, from branded (Kirkland, Supertech) and the no-name stuff from wherever. Not much help, but I know where oils fit into my rubric on sight. Sorry that there is no science here, but the original thread was, essentially, asking whether Quaker State was in with the good brands (I think so), or not.
Couple of bubbly labels.Had 5qt jugs and single qts in stock today, did pick up a jug of 5w30 for later. View attachment 145821View attachment 145822
Couple of bubbly labels.
No sleight intended. I agree that multiple brands not listed agree on the list,and QSFS included imhoSo you've got two SOPUS products as top tier but not Mobil or Castrol with two?
What will those tell you that the certifications on the label panel don’t?i'm interested in the VOA and spec sheet
How much Moly it contains for starters.What will those tell you that the certifications on the label panel don’t?
Oh that tells you something about how well the oil performs? Not the certifications it actually has?How much Moly it contains for starters.
The oil is 95% moly and 5% PAO.How much Moly it contains for starters.
You didn't ask if it will tell you how it would perform. You specifically asked what the VOA would tell you that the certifications don't and I answered. Never said anything about more moly is better or not, but many of the posters here, including myself, like to know how much is in the oil and a VOA will tell you that. I mean, dude, you asked the question.Oh that tells you something about how well the oil performs? Not the certifications it actually has?
Would you prefer an oil with 1500ppm of MoS2, an oil with 600ppm of dimer, or an oil with 100ppm of trimer? Are you a “more is better” kinda buyer, or a “better is more” kind?