Pennzoil 15,000/20,000 mile Protection Guarantee

Some people just don't get it, no matter how many people tell them. They have to learn the hard way.

Niece: my car won't start.

Her mother: OK we will have our family relative who is a mechanic look at it.

Mechanic: it's out of oil.

Mechanic to Niece: how long has the red light oil can symbol been lit up on the dash?

Niece: 3 days.

Mechanic: The engine is ruined and needs replaced.

Niece: your kidding, right.

Mechanic: No. It needs a new engine.

Niece: how much will that cost?

Mechanic: six thousand dollars.

Niece: that's more than we paid for that car.

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Now that Niece knows how important oil is.

She was told what to do if that red light ever came on when she was learning to drive and what would happen if she did not imiditally put oil in. ---- In one ear and out the other. It just does not register.


Some people have to learn the hard way.
 
So my question is...if you're in the stick to the more conservative number camp, have you done UOAs at that (or any) mileage, and if so has the analysis pointed you to that conservative number? Or do they say "you could go much further" and it's more the "better safe than sorry" logic behind sticking w/ the 5k (or whatever pretty conservative number)?
I have a few UOA reports now for three of my vehicles. The reports show in all examples I could have gone a bit longer, not enough to be wasting money but long enough that if I was sick or busy I had some oil life in reserve. My latest UOA for my wife's Liberty was done for a change in driving conditions due to her retirement, and based on that I will be doing 6 month OCIs.

Once I have the reports I'll recheck if driving conditions change, or do a spot check to make sure there are no problems with air filtration, coolant in the oil, or a fuel dilution problem. FTR oil is checked and I have never run an engine low on oil.
 
Some people just don't get it, no matter how many people tell them. They have to learn the hard way.

Niece: my car won't start.

Her mother: OK we will have our family relative who is a mechanic look at it.

Mechanic: it's out of oil.

Mechanic to Niece: how long has the red light oil can symbol been lit up on the dash?

Niece: 3 days.

Mechanic: The engine is ruined and needs replaced.

Niece: your kidding, right.

Mechanic: No. It needs a new engine.

Niece: how much will that cost?

Mechanic: six thousand dollars.

Niece: that's more than we paid for that car.

-------------------

Now that Niece knows how important oil is.

She was told what to do if that red light ever came on when she was learning to drive and what would happen if she did not imiditally put oil in. ---- In one ear and out the other. It just does not register.


Some people have to learn the hard way.
My dear departed dad words resonate once again.

Some people learn early.
Some people learn late.
And some never learn.
 
Tell that to long term member Tig1, who has done 10k intervals with Mobil 1 for 40 years and all of his cars last a long time. He has well over 300k on one of his Ford Fusions right now actually. The only thing 5k intervals would have done for him is double his costs on oil.

I’m currently at 150k on my Civic with 10k intervals also. I plan on keeping this car a long time and I’m confident I will not have any problem getting to 300k without any engine problems
Yessir! I change every 10K to 15K miles and just ran a 20K mile interval!
 
I don’t know if this has already been mentioned or posted:

In my recent conversation with the Pennzoil 800 number customer relations person, he mentioned that Pennzoil Platinum labels now show a 15,000 Protection Guarantee.

In addition, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum labels now show a 20,000 mile Guarantee. Same formulation as before, he claims.

I was wondering not if, but when, this wording was going to occur. Considering you can already buy a Quaker State Ultimate Protection product with a 20,000 mile guarantee wording on the label. Pennzoil GTL products are supposed to be the flagship Shell motor oils.

All this 20,000 mile talk is in keeping with the competition, I suppose. Mobil 1 and Super Tech have had it on their labels for quite some time. Good luck winning a legal case if your engine has an oil related failure prior to the 20,000 mile mark. Have a good lawyer on standby.

On a side note, I just tried Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W20 for the first time after using Mobil 1 0W20EP for years. Vehicle being a ‘22 Ford Maverick Hybrid 2.5L engine. I noticed the engine is slightly smoother and quieter at the lower rpms. Don’t know if I will use it long term.
PUP 5-20 is smoother than 0-20 PUP in my 17 Camry...... I just run it 5,000. Severe service down here in the Sunny South Summer. .02
 
Tell that to long term member Tig1, who has done 10k intervals with Mobil 1 for 40 years and all of his cars last a long time. He has well over 300k on one of his Ford Fusions right now actually. The only thing 5k intervals would have done for him is double his costs on oil.

I’m currently at 150k on my Civic with 10k intervals also. I plan on keeping this car a long time and I’m confident I will not have any problem getting to 300k without any engine problems
Today one must clarify if driving a GDI engine if not ? If using a USA SP , D1 / Gen 3 rated oil you are not going to want to exceed a 5K mile / 6 month OCI … The max mileage stated on the oil container means nothing if you drive a GDI vehicle .
 
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Today one must clarify if driving a GDI engine if not ? If using a USA SP , D1 / Gen 3 rated oil you are not going to want to exceed a 5K mile / 6 month OCI … The max mileage stated on the oil container means nothing if you drive a GDI vehicle .
Not all GDI vehicles are like this though. The Corvette uses DI and they have no problems running D1G3 oils for 7500 miles (that’s about what a lot of people do if they’re following their oil life monitors)
 
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