I am kind of thinking ZDDP will be same amount. But it is baffling that it doesn’t have MB229.5. I really like HTHS though. But this reminds me of Castrol 5W40, except Castrol 5W40 carries both MB229.5 and LL01.I'm sticking with 0/40 til I see a x2 VOA
Ok, but again, what is the point if oil is not approved for any MB vehicle on the market in the last 10 years, or BMW? So, older VW and Porsche vehicles? And Porsche people will stick to 0W40.castrol 5w40 exists and apparently people buy it, mobil wants a piece of the cake
Nah, 229.5 is staying in 40 grade too. I am not sure this is Super. As far as my memory serves me, it was mostly Gr III. This actually has PAO and GTL.What a weird product.for them offer. Did they have and get rid of a Mobil Super "Euro" formula?
Perhaps with all automakers moving to thinner oils they are beginning to phase out 0w40 because it's too expensive to produce? Is Porsche moving everything to C40 or C30.?
Has 229.50 been limited to 30w only?
Mobil 1™ Formula M 5W-40| Mobil™
Discover how Mobil 1™ Formula M 5W-40 motor oil provides exceptional cleaning power, wear protection and outstanding overall performance for both diesel and gas automobiles, including those requiring and specific Mercedes-Benz approvals.www.mobil.com
Makes it sound like a MB specific oil - says MB229.5 here?
Mobil 1™ Formula M 5W-40| Mobil™
Discover how Mobil 1™ Formula M 5W-40 motor oil provides exceptional cleaning power, wear protection and outstanding overall performance for both diesel and gas automobiles, including those requiring and specific Mercedes-Benz approvals.www.mobil.com
Makes it sound like a MB specific oil - says MB229.5 here?
Probably because Noack is above 10%.why it didn’t get approved for 229.5 is beyond me
This oil definitely doesn’t have ZDDP level of TDT.Hmmm.....
Properties and Specifications Mobil 1™ Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40
Kinematic Viscosity @ 100 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445 13.7
Kinematic Viscosity @ 40 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445 83
Property Density, 15.6C, g/cm3, ASTM D4052 0.853
Flash Point, Cleveland Open Cup, °C, ASTM D92 234
Pour Point, °C, ASTM D97 -48
But again, missing LL01 and MB229.5. I mean, ok, they sell to people who want 5W40 (those who are not looking approvals will get any 5W40) which is some customer base. But than you have people who want oil bcs. approvals and they eliminated most BMW owners and MB owners.I imagine Castrol sells a lot of 5w40, I'm not surprised Mobil would finally come out with a competing product. There are a lot of cars that recommend 5w40 and a lot of people don't understand you can use 0w40 instead.
And that is strange part. PAO 10-20%, GTL 30-50%.Probably because Noack is above 10%.
The majority of the general public is clueless about oil to begin with, and while a small percentage will understand viscosity it's still larger than the market that understands approvals. Furthermore, most BMW or MB owners that I know, don't even know where the hood release is. With the trend towards thinner oils including European makes, this 5w-40 maybe geared towards a market just simply looking for that grade for either domestic or imported models that are no longer under warranty. Thoughts?But again, missing LL01 and MB229.5. I mean, ok, they sell to people who want 5W40 (those who are not looking approvals will get any 5W40) which is some customer base. But than you have people who want oil bcs. approvals and they eliminated most BMW owners and MB owners.