Filter change every other oil change - anyone doing it?

Urshurak776 said:
I see no upside to not changing the filter at every oil change, other than cost. I buy in bulk, so cost really isn't that big a deal to me. Some will claim Earths resources, etc. That's fine. Everyone has to decide on their own what's important to them.
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As I already mentioned, another benefit is that it makes the oil change less messy if you’re not changing the filter and it shaves off some time as well.
 
kschachn said:
A popular and oft discussed topic here on Bitog, I'm surprised you missed them if you like reading through the forums.

Many discuss a Fram filter in particular. Sorry if there are repeats, there are just so many:

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Thread 'Would you run a fram ultra for two changes?'

Hey guys, I’ve got a 2012 Nissan Titan that’s running Mobil 1 5w30 with a fram ultra filter. I’m due for an oil change. I’ve always changed my oil at every 3,750 miles as it instructs in the manual and the 3 samples I’ve sent to Blackstone have been very low wear. This time I stretched it out to a more reasonable 5,200 miles. I put the fram ultra on with the intentions of running it for 2 changes (10,000 miles) but I have a couple concerns. People say you don’t get all the old oil out unless you remove the filter as well. Is that something I should be concerned with? Would it be a good...
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Thread 'Reusing Fram Ultra Synth. Oil Filter?'

Hey guys,

Bought and installed a FRAM Ultra Synthetic Oil Filter (XG3614) my last oil change which was 5k miles ago. I'm in college so I won't be driving much, probably up to 5k mi a year. I'm doing my oil change next month and I was wondering if it would be okay to reuse the filter as it claims protection to 20k mi. Assuming I empty the oil from the filter each time, would I be fine using the filter up to 15k mi?
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Thread 'Reuse fram XG for 1 more O/C?'

Dad's 08 escape with the 2.3 I4 (154k) is coming up on another oil change. Ive been using PP 0w20 last 2 oil changes and been putting a new fram XG on it each time. O/C is usually 6-7k burns about a quart through each O/C. Can/should i reuse it for another o/c or put a tough guard on it?

Also plan on doing the VCG 2 since its seeping a bit.
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Thread 'can i change oil without changing my fram ultra?'

i have a fram ultra xg3506 on my gm 6.0l v8 lq4 engine. fram states this filter is good for 20,000 miles and 30,000 km. i am not too sure how true that is but i am going to change my oil this weekend since i want to try solving a oil leak, maybe go thicker or something and i was hoping to keep the fram ultra on and not change it. the fram ultra only has 4000 km on it so i doubt it is even that dirty anyways. i dont see why i cannot just put new oil in and use the old filter until it eventually gets x amount of km on it that i have to change it. but i just want to make sure! i will...
Brons2

Thread 'Fram Ultra Users - question'

If you run them more than 1 OCI, do you take off the filter and drain it, or do you just drain the sump and refill? I chose the latter path as I am getting no rattles of any sort at all when I start the car and didn't want to disturb the gasket. Of course it also simplifies the change not having to remove and reinstall the filter.

Yes, it leaves about a cup of the old oil in the engine, but I really don't think it's that big of a deal, with a 5.3 qt capacity (with the new longer dipstick anyway...) it's at least 95% new oil.

I'm pretty happy with this filter, it's the first one I've used...
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Thread 'Can I use an oil filter twice'

Hello, I own a 2020 Subaru Impreza with 49k miles, I do 3-4k mile oil changes because I live in the city with lots of traffic and stop-and-go. The Fram endurance oil filter claims it can be used for 25k miles, I'm wondering if I can use it 2 or even 3 times without issues.
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Thread 'Question for those who reuse oil filters'

When changing your oil, do you still remove the filter to empty it out and just put it back on? Or do you even bother emptying it?
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Thread 'Using an oil filter for 2 oci..question'

for those that go two oci for one oil filter, do you remove the filter to dispose of the old oil and then slap it back on? or just leave it?
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Thread 'Running oil filters multiple OCIs'

This question isn't for those who change their oil filter at each OCI but for those of you who run your oil filters for multiple OCIs.

Do you ever remove the filter drain it & reinstall it?
I don't, I just leave'em on. But, I'm just asking even as silly of a question as it may seem.

I realize that if we're going to remove the filter, we might just as well install a new one.
However, there are those of us who remove spark plugs, look at them and if they look fine, reinstall them.

Same with brake pads. I've taken them off, inspected them, lubed everything, blead the system and...
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Thread 'Reusing oil filter'

Started an oil change and realized I didn't have any spare filters in stock. The filter currently on the car is a Fram ultra guard and it only has 5k on it so I have no issue using it again.

My question is would you guys normally uninstall it and drain it out? I thought I remembered a thread about filters not resealing well once unscrewed. Just wanted to get some opinions.

2012 Honda Pilot if that makes any difference
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Thread 'your opinion on reusing oil filters?'

Should i re-used the oil filter in my car? (pureone) it has about 4000 on it. i change the oil every 4k with maxlife.
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Thread 'Drain Filter If I Reuse It?'

I have been reading that some filter can do 15k, and get more efficient in that time. However 15k is at least twice the OCI that I want to do.

If I choose to reuse a filter, should I at least unscrew it and drain the old oil out?

On both my vehicles, the filter mounts mouth-up, and probably has at least 1/4 quart of oil in it. I'd like to get rid of that oil if it is advisable.
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Thread 'a 2 sec reply.....PLEASE'

i have been in much debate over the reuse of oil filters, enough that i want to do my own lil research....im not asking for an opinion, i want you to post if or if not you reuse oil filters and your approximate age............please
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Thread 'Using filter for second OCI'

When using the same filter for a second oci, do you guys take it off and drain the oil or keep it on and use half a quart less?
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Thread 'Changing filter every other oci'

So until now i've always changed my oil filter every other oil change, so every 2 years so every 4000/5000 Km or so ( 2500 / 3000 Miles ), running conventional oil, should i change it every year? does it really make the engine run cleaner? Sorry if this question has already been asked repeatedly before

Second question ,i'm planning to use VR1 on my next oil change and spend some extra money, is it really worth it?
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Thread 'Question using same filter for 2 oil changes'

I use cheapest Fram or ST filters on my kids’ and wife’s cars at 5-7.5 k mile OCI and always change filter and use M1 or ST or Costco/KS synthetic at OEM oil weight recommendation. My DD are a 2017 Z51 Corvette and 2000 S2000. I will drive each 3-4k miles a year and use or will use Fram TG filters probably or maybe UG. I wanted to try changing filter every other OC, so 6-8k miles as a DD over half highway miles. That seem reasonable? If so, main question was when I do the OC, should I remove filter and drain it and reinstall or just leave in place so I don’t disrupt the filter seal and...
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Thread 'If I want to use my filter twice can I'

Hi, If I want to use my oil filter twice can I safely remove my XG10575 in order to drain it before adding new fresh oil in my engine ? Am I looking for creating more chance for an oil leak ?

one interval using my OLM on my eco 3.5 in my f150 = +- 15000 km or 9300 miles so i would maximize the use of this fine filter .

or should I keep using the fl500s each oil change at the end it would cost just a bit more .
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Thread 'Reusing Oil Filter Question'

How many people here regularly don't change their oil filters when they do an oil change?

I just can not do it. I have to put a new filter on too.

Has anyone run more than 2 oil changes on the same filter?

Do you normally at least dump the old nasty oil out of it and reinstall it or just leave it alone?
Blake1107

Thread 'Oil Filter Going 2 OCI Thoughts'

To give vehicle background: 2016 F-150 with the 5.0. Owned since 48,XXX miles and have nearly put 100K on myself now. Not an issue from it and always a synthetic oil and quality filter ran. Has been a 1/2 quart short maybe twice at an OC.

I have recently decided to shorten my OCI's from roughly 7,500 miles max to approx. 4,000 in an attempt to hopefully clean up some buildup/varnish in the engine a little. This will be the first OC at 4,000. By cutting the interval nearly in half, I began wondering if I should consider leaving the filter on for 2 OC's. I did my best to use the search...
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Thread 'Changing filter every other OCI?'

My Honda's manual says to change filter every other OCI. I've always felt it is better to change filter each time you change the oil. Is there any reason Honda feels this way? Are there other manufacturers that suggest every other filter changes? What are your thoughts on this recommendation?
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Thread 'Drain oil in filter when reusing?'

For people who use an oil filter for multiple OCI's...

Do you unscrew the filter to get the oil out of it and then re-tighten, or do you leave the oil in and just fill the sump up with new oil? I'm debating which method would be better for the engine. Getting as much old oil out as possible, or leaving the ADBV to do it's job?
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Thread 'New filter every other oil change?'

I've got an 07 Honda Civic, and am coming up on the time for its first oil change at around 6000 miles. Through lots of reading on this site and trust in Honda I'm confident in following the car's OLM to determine when I need to do oil changes on the car, but I'm not quite sure what to think of the recommendation to change the filter on every other oil change.

I'm sure the Honda OEM filters are good but I'm not sure whether this is a recommendation more based on lowering maintenance costs or more based on what would actually be better for the engine.

Are many models of new cars...
RevRider

Thread 'Changing Oil Filter Every Other Time'

Is this any reason why you can't change your oil filter every other time if you are using a high capacity filter like M1, Amsoil, Puralator synthtetic, etc., and only going 4k to 5k on oil service intervals?

I bought a Puralator Synthetic filter at PepBoys yesterday, and the advise was to change it out at every oil service.

I am wondering why.

RevRider
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Thread 'How many people are running oil filters for multiple intervals?'

It seems like there are a lot of people running Fram ultras for multiple intervals, just curious who are and what filter your using? I've always changed the filter at every oil change but thought about switching to a better filter and running it twice.
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Thread 'Jumping on filter every other oil change bandwagon'

Well I think I am going to hop on the "every other oil change" bandwagon and start doing this beginning my upcoming oil change for the Civic. By all accounts, I don't think there will be any harm in this if it is something that Honda says its fine to do. The 2012 Civic uses the maintenance minder. Expected OCI is 7500 miles / 12000 kms.

I have read the "cheap insurance" argument, which I understand why some feel this way, but the rationale goes beyond saving the money for the cost of the filter. What's at the heart of the argument is, is it necessary to change the filter if used oil is...
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Thread 'For guys re-using old oil filters....'

Do you take the time to dump the old oil out the filter and let it drain before re-installing? I never thought to reuse a sny filter or any filter for that matter, but after seeing the last post that went through 3 oci's, I'm re-thinking my point on that subject. I've used the Fram sny filter, but replaced after the 7500 oci using syn oil. I'm now running dino due to my stash, so I planned on doing 6k oci's (85% city driving to work) while using the P1 Gold. I changed oil back in June and I'm only at 1700 miles now.
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O gee...it has been talked about before........ :ROFLMAO: 🍿
 
hrv said:
O gee...it has been talked about before........ :ROFLMAO: 🍿
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Truth be told, as great as this site really is, by this point, there is very little ground that hasn’t been ploughed a time or two. If one’s curiosity has been satisfied, great, give it a pass. If not, keep ploughing! And every once in a while, a genuinely new issue pops up here (e.g. car makers recommending/specifying a new type or grade of oil, like 0w-8). This is not one of them. I would add that this has been a point of debate for literally decades. My first car care experiences came in the mid 1970s. Long story, but maintenance on my Mom’s car suddenly fell to me. It was a 1973 Dodge Dart sedan with the legendary 225 cid Slant-6 engine. It was already a bit sludgy when it came into my care (at first, I thought that shiny black stuff around the rockers was some sort of grease!!!😳), and I was concerned about the manual’s advice to change filters every other change. As noted above, for modern engines, skipping filter changes, if the engine is clean and the maker recommends it, is certainly safe. If the engine appears dirty for whatever reason, to any extent, I wouldn’t do it. Still, the Owner’s Manual from 1973 suggest skipped filter changes. That engine was carbureted and called for API-SE oil.
 
I use a MityVac every 5K, usually a little less. Swap the filter every 2nd (or even 3rd) time.
Honda and Toyota suggest 10K services, so perhaps you are not missing a filter swap, rather your are simply doing short interval oil changes.

The nice thing about this is, there is little reason to wait on a service is all I gotta do is MityVac the oil and dump in the fresh stuff.
I have done an oil change on Christmas day, after getting cleaned up, It's that easy.
 
Used to with the OG Fram Ultras. Now, usually every oil change gets a new filter.
 
Urshurak776 said:
I see no upside to not changing the filter at every oil change, other than cost. I buy in bulk, so cost really isn't that big a deal to me. Some will claim Earths resources, etc. That's fine. Everyone has to decide on their own what's important to them.

If you have a clean engine, probably not a big deal. For me, I change it every oil change. Nobody is wrong, just different views.
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One upside is being able to do a topside oil change and not change clothes, use ramps, crawl under the car, etc. And Honda, for one, has this regimen built into its Maintenance Minder.
 
Danh said:
One upside is being able to do a topside oil change and not change clothes, use ramps, crawl under the car, etc. And Honda, for one, has this regimen built into its Maintenance Minder.
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None of my cars have that ability. I already have to put car on a ramp, already have to take the small engine guard cover off.

It may make sense in some cars, but none of mine. I'm there anyway, so, I just change it.
 
Cut some filters open and see what they look like.
A properly functional gasoline engine will make less than 1 gram of stuff the filter can catch every 1,000 miles.
 
bighead2586 said:
I have been using Fram silver can filters (Tough Guard I believe), but am considering getting Ultras or Synthetic Endurance and switching the filters every other oil change. I figure an oil filter rated for 20,000 miles should definitely be good for a year and 10,000 miles.
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Yes on the bold part.

bighead2586 said:
I've also read that an oil filter might actually become more effective at filtration when it is slightly clogged by particulates and the rationale made sense to me.
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False ... oil filters lose efficiency as they load up and the dP increases across the media. Filters with a high ISO 4548-12 efficiency rating hold their efficiency better with use and loading then low efficiency filters.
 
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bighead2586 said:
Am I crazy?
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You're not alone. I'm on my 3rd oil change on a Fram Endurance on a 2024 Toyota Rav4 Prime. At 781 miles I changed oil and filter and currently at 10971. I plan on changing out Fram Endurance closer to 20k miles with oil changes every 4k miles.
 
That tremor was BOF rolling over GRHS,,, kinda miss the dude.

I ve done that quite bit, if you search post i started you'll find quite a few with corresponding UOAs and cut filters. Particularly the Civic.
 
Patman said:
You can if you come to Canada. With the exchange rate, the cost that I pay at my Carquest is $8.04 CDN which works out to $5.75 US
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No price increase at Carquest in Canada? Guess they know the US is use to the inflation train, so jack it up! :D
 
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For the most part, engine oil filters are good for a year at least. I change out filters once a year at fall service, engine oil is changed 2-3x a year.
 
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