Bought a new Tundra

[hemioiler]

I’m actually not a Toyota fan. And yeah, the whole machining bits in the engine is a big debacle for them. It’s just that I’ve owned Nissan before and know how crappy of a company they are and that dislike of Nissan combined with how bad of a company they are overrides this QC issue for Toyota. If you really think that making one or two decent products makes Nissan a better overall company than Toyota, I don’t think even Jesus can help you at this point.

It's not the brand, its the product. Every brand has made terrible products and good products, sometimes it comes down to the year of the product or even a specific feature.

Hanging onto Toyota like they're going to save your life is a fools mission. The new Tacoma is experiencing issues as well.

In general: Toyota is usually a safe bet, but that comes down to running old production lines well beyond the "best before" date. Many people are fine with this, they want an appliance or prioritize "no breakdowns" above and beyond all else. There is a large market for that. But they're not better engineers than other brands. They work out the bugs and run with it for another 15 to 20 years.

 

[Dr_Dr3i]

OP, congrats on the new truck! I cross-shopped the new Tundra 2 years ago when I was in the market for a truck and I liked it a lot.

As others have noted, that's a sexy red paint job; how about some interior shots?

In the end I opted for a new Ram with the diesel, since most of our drives are roadtrips to/from Midwest to the deep South. I love the fuel economy on those trips, plus it tows our 20ft 4500lbs boat like it's not even back there.

Enjoy the Tundra and may you have only good luck with it!

 

[350Rocket]

But he's not just a youTuber. It depends on how much trust you have in the presenter. Same as taking advice from this Forum.

I agree. I've watched that guy a few times and I think he's pretty transparent even if I think he'd very biased towards Toyota.

 

[drtyler]

The new Tacoma is experiencing issues as well.

What types of issues?

 

[Ausfahrt]

OP, congrats on the new truck! I cross-shopped the new Tundra 2 years ago when I was in the market for a truck and I liked it a lot.

As others have noted, that's a sexy red paint job; how about some interior shots?

In the end I opted for a new Ram with the diesel, since most of our drives are roadtrips to/from Midwest to the deep South. I love the fuel economy on those trips, plus it tows our 20ft 4500lbs boat like it's not even back there.

Enjoy the Tundra and may you have only good luck with it!

Thank you. It looks like your Dodge is serving you nicely and I hope to get the same from my Toyota.

Interestingly, When I went to look at the Tundra I rode my motorcycle to the dealership and test drove a blue one that had been on the lot for 60 days. I liked it but while I was there I saw that they were unloading a new batch and I lasered in on the red one.

This is the 12th vehicle that I bought new and it was a strange transaction. We agreed to a deal with no paperwork and only a handshake and I left my motorcycle in their shop overnight and drove the Tundra home to show it to my wife. The next day my wife and I drove the Tunda and our old Crosstrek to the dealership to complete the sale and they tried to beat me up on the condition of our 10 year old 165,000 mile Subaru.

They tried a full court press with the sales manager, general manager and who knows else but in the end I made them honor the handshake deal or I would have walked. They ended up giving me 6k for my beat up crosstrek and I put 10k down and I rode my bike home while my wife put the first few miles on our Tundra.

And here are a few of the requested interior shots.

 

[SatinSilver]

Like the size of that screen versus the larger tablet one. Also like no panoramic roof which comes standard on Platinum/1794 and Capstone. Having 18 inch wheels with more sidewall is another plus.

 

[Ausfahrt]

Like the size of that screen versus the larger tablet one. Also like no panoramic roof which comes standard on Platinum/1794 and Capstone. Having 18 inch wheels with more sidewall is another plus.

I agree with all of that. The 14 inch screen in the F150 was just annoyingly distracting. I'm also not a fan of the huge wheel/minimal sidewall tire trend.

 

[VersatileGuy]

Not sure why grown men would follow some YouTuber or view his actions as validation of theirs.

More like he's just like 100s of other mechanics who go Toyota and tell other people to go that way. Listening to someone isn't the same as worshiping or simping for that person.

 

[350Rocket]

Thank you. It looks like your Dodge is serving you nicely and I hope to get the same from my Toyota.

Interestingly, When I went to look at the Tundra I rode my motorcycle to the dealership and test drove a blue one that had been on the lot for 60 days. I liked it but while I was there I saw that they were unloading a new batch and I lasered in on the red one.

This is the 12th vehicle that I bought new and it was a strange transaction. We agreed to a deal with no paperwork and only a handshake and I left my motorcycle in their shop overnight and drove the Tundra home to show it to my wife. The next day my wife and I drove the Tunda and our old Crosstrek to the dealership to complete the sale and they tried to beat me up on the condition of our 10 year old 165,000 mile Subaru.

They tried a full court press with the sales manager, general manager and who knows else but in the end I made them honor the handshake deal or I would have walked. They ended up giving me 6k for my beat up crosstrek and I put 10k down and I rode my bike home while my wife put the first few miles on our Tundra.

And here are a few of the requested interior shots.




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Nice truck. Congrats. 12th new vehicle wow. Do you mind me asking how old you are? I'm turning 41 soon and making the most $ I've ever made in my life ($31/hr Canadian) but I've never bought a new vehicle and it looks likely that I never will based on the economy, cost of new vehicles and how short lived they are becoming.

 

[CKN]

Nice truck. Congrats. 12th new vehicle wow. Do you mind me asking how old you are? I'm turning 41 soon and making the most $ I've ever made in my life ($31/hr Canadian) but I've never bought a new vehicle and it looks likely that I never will based on the economy, cost of new vehicles and how short lived they are becoming.

When did this start? Two years ago-5 ? The average age of vehicles on the road is 12.6 years. How old is old?

 

[CKN]

Toyota to replace 100,000-plus engines in recalled Tundra, Lexus LX​

The Japanese automaker will notify customers this month of the fix, which involves uncleaned debris from potentially damaging the engine.​

 

[2019CRVlx]

Why approx. 100k engines? Did they change their manufacturing process?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/busi...eplacement-tundra-trucks-lexus-suv/index.html

Perhaps the OP won't experience the problems the earlier engines experienced.

I'd like to flame the OP, but it would be more out of jealously

 

[Ausfahrt]

Nice truck. Congrats. 12th new vehicle wow. Do you mind me asking how old you are? I'm turning 41 soon and making the most $ I've ever made in my life ($31/hr Canadian) but I've never bought a new vehicle and it looks likely that I never will based on the economy, cost of new vehicles and how short lived they are becoming.

Thanks. I try to keep my vehicles at least 100k miles and/or 10 years but there have been a few exceptions over the years. That vehicle total includes cars that were bought primarily for my wives (ex and current ). I Have been retired for 4 years and I'm 62.

 

[Cujet]

Very nice truck! I am considering the same.

I am going to be the odd man out here and seriously question the relationship between engine failure and supposed debris. I believe it is a possible lack of oil flow, related to operating the engine with 4 PSI of oil pressure under low RPM, modest load conditions, which (at least in some cases) damages the front main bearing before anything else.

One press quote: "Toyota has not yet determined the fix for the engine debris" seems to indicate that simply introducing a cleaning step won't fix the issue. And as of last month, Toyota itself says: "Toyota is currently developing a remedy for this problem".

To me, one big clue that it's not debris, is that the main bearing spins and STICKS to the crankshaft. Debris typically wipes out a bearing and destroys it. Lack of adequate lubrication typically overheats a bearing and causes it to extrude some "fines" stick to the crankshaft and spin. The two forms of failure are often very different.

I am in the market for a new truck and am looking at the Tundra. If I do choose a Tundra, I will make sure to have adequate factory warranty coverage and would likely purchase an extended policy. Along with choosing the highest quality oil and frequent changes. Today, Ford uses rubber oil pump belts, GM and Ram still have lifter issues, Nissan is a has-been and it seems almost every choice has some risk. The one engine that seems robust is Ford's 3.5EB, but having owned one, I would prefer anything else due to sound and feel as mine sounded like a UPS truck, groaning when under high load on long trips.

 

[dja4260]

In my opinion, that is a sharp truck! The color is really appealing! I have two friends with the same powertrain in their Tundras. Both love their trucks and only one had a minor issue that stumped the dealer regarding the gas tank? I'm not informed enough to comment further. Toyota gave him a loaner Tundra and it's fixed now.

 

[Cujet]

Searching 4x4 Tundra's locally, there are some $3k-$4K discounts, bringing the cost in line with the now heavily discounted Fords.

Was also watching the TFL-truck video that mentioned the engine failures happen regardless of where the engine was manufactured.

 

[350Rocket]

Searching 4x4 Tundra's locally, there are some $3k-$4K discounts, bringing the cost in line with the now heavily discounted Fords.

Was also watching the TFL-truck video that mentioned the engine failures happen regardless of where the engine was manufactured.

They are apparently replacing all the engines now anyway. Well at least 102k or something of them. Not sure if that includes any 2024 models or not. .

One thing that was mentioned is something I see people here not understand regularly...due to a quirk in the way NHTSA data is collected it was reported as a 1% failure rate but that is only because Toyota could not accurately predict what the actual failure rate would be.
It could be 1% right now when they are all still very new and haven't had a chance to fail yet.
If there is 100k sold and over 1000 have failed when they all have less than 20k miles on them, what do you think the number of failures might be in a few years and then ten years?

I'm not trying to knock these trucks specifically, just something I see commented a lot when people try to defend problematic engines or transmissions with a 0.xxx% failure rate.

 

[b_b]

I’d rather drive a good product from a crappy brand than a crappy product from a good brand. Every new vehicle is a gamble.

this is the way, there is no silver bullet and every major financial decision should be looked at with no bias.

 

[350Rocket]

this is the way, there is no silver bullet and every major financial decision should be looked at with no bias.

I think my 2005 Silverado qualifies as a good truck from a crappy brand. At least they kind of are today. If I had to replace it I would probably go with something like a 2018 Tundra. But I look at every specific vehicle these days vs just a specific brand.

 

[350Rocket]

When did this start? Two years ago-5 ? The average age of vehicles on the road is 12.6 years. How old is old?

Yeah my opinion on this will be much different than yours. Old to me is 15+.