This is the reason I stay away from the newer models. Parts can be an issue though.
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This is the reason I stay away from the newer models. Parts can be an issue though.
Gee thanks...In other news, water is wet.
Someone posted this on another forum I frequent. Don't know where it originated from.
I'm no mechanic but that doesn't seem right...
Yep, "Quality Is Job One."
Isn't that the "get out of mud easy" option?
So far, there have been a total of eight recalls issued for the 2016 Ford Fusion. These recalls are as follows:
NHTSA Recall ID: 16V875000
Recall Date: 10/01/2015 – Affected Component: Fuel Tank
In 2015, Ford issued the first recall for the newly released 2016 Ford Fusion, citing a faulty fuel tank as the reason. Per the recall, certain 2016 Fusion models may have been outfitted with a fuel tank whose walls were insufficiently thick. In the event of a crash, these faulty fuel tanks are prone to breaking, dramatically increasing the risk of an explosion or fire due to fuel leaking into other components of the vehicle. In order to resolve this issue, Ford has offered to replace the fuel tanks free of charge on all affected models.NHTSA Recall ID: 16V250000
Recall Date: 04/27/2016 – Affected Component: Front Seat Belt
In 2016, a recall was issued for certain 2016 Ford Fusion models that had been manufactured from March 10, 2016 to March 26, 2016 after Ford discovered that these models may have been equipped with a front driver seat track assembly’s rear riser that had not been properly welded to the seat track rail. In the event of a crash, the welds on affected models could break, causing the seatbelt to fail to restrain the vehicle’s driver. In order to resolve this issue, Ford has offered to replace the front seat track rail free of charge on all affected models.NHTSA Recall ID: 16V875000
Recall Date: 12/05/2016 – Affected Component: Front Seat Belt
Less than a year after issuing the first recall regarding the 2016 Ford Fusion’s front seat belt, Ford was forced to issue another recall for the 2016 Fusion due to the same component. Ford discovered that heat from the deployment of the seat belt’s pretensioner may cause the 2016 Fusion’s front seat belt anchor cable to fail in the event of a crash. If this component fails, the driver would not be properly restrained by their seatbelt in the event of a crash. In order to resolve this issue, Ford has offered to apply a protective coating to the seat belt cable free of charge on all affected models.NHTSA Recall ID: 18V167000
Recall Date: 03/12/2018 – Affected Component: Steering Wheel
In 2018, Ford issued a recall on certain 2014-2018 Ford Fusion models, citing a faulty steering wheel as the cause. On affected models, the steering wheel’s restraining bolt may loosen over time, resulting in the possibility of the steering wheel coming detached while the vehicle is in operation and causing a dangerous loss of control. In order to resolve this issue, Ford has offered to replace the steering wheel restraining bolt with a longer bolt free of charge on all affected models.NHTSA Recall ID: 18V167000
Recall Date: 07/16/2018 – Affected Component: Transmission
In 2018, Ford issued a recall on certain 2013-2016 Ford fusion models that had been equipped with a six-speed automatic transmission. On affected models, Ford discovered that the bushing attaching the transmission shifter cable to the transmission is prone to degrading over time, resulting in the possibility that the shifter cable comes detached from the transmission. In the event that this happens, the vehicle may show that it has been placed in park without actually ever shifting into park, potentially leading to a rollaway. In order to resolve this issue, Ford has offered to replace the shifter cable bushing free of charge on all affected models.NHTSA Recall ID: 19V362000
Recall Date: 05/13/2019 – Affected Component: Transmission
In 2019, Ford was forced to issue another recall on certain 2013-2016 Fusion models that is almost identical to the previous recall issued in July 2018, this time for certain 2013-2016 Ford Fusion models that had been equipped with a 2.5L engine. As with the previous recall, Ford discovered that the bushing attaching the transmission shifter cable to the transmission is prone to degrading over time, resulting in the possibility that the shifter cable comes detached from the transmission.In the event that this happens, the vehicle may show that it has been placed in park without actually ever shifting into park, potentially leading to a rollaway. In order to resolve this issue, Ford has offered to replace the shifter cable bushing free of charge on all affected models.
NHTSA Recall ID: 19V632000
Recall Date: 08/29/2019 – Affected Component: Power Steering
In 2019, Ford issued a recall for certain 2013-2016 Ford Fusion models that were originally sold or currently registered in Connecticut, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wisconsin. On affected models, road salt and/or other factors may corrode the vehicle’s electric power steering gear motor attachment bolts, leading to a loss of power steering. If this loss of power steering occurs while the vehicle is in operation it will make it much more difficult to control and increase the risk of a crash. In order to resolve this issue, Ford has offered to replace the steering gear motor bolts and apply a wax sealer free of charge on all affected models.NHTSA Recall ID: 20V177000
Recall Date: 08/29/2019 – Affected Component: Door Latches
In 2020, Ford issued a recall on certain 2014-2016 Ford Fusion models, citing faulty door latches that may fail while the vehicle is in operation. This recall specifically affects 2014-2016 Fusion models that were originally sold or ever registered in Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico, Nevada, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Washington, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan), and the U.S. Virgin Islands. On affected models, a component within the door latch may break, potentially causing the door to come open while the vehicle is in operation. In order to resolve this issue, Ford has offered to replace the door latches free of charge on all affected models.The wet clutch used in Europe was paired with a diesel, the wet clutch being necessary to handle the torque. Ford thought a dry clutch would do with the gas engines in the Fiesta and Focus. It was epically wrong. I dumped mine early and Ford’s non-handling of that whole affair has put me off the brand.
we should evaluate the scrub radius here.
If you want to see a Ford engineer cringe just say the word: Powershift....
From the wikipedia page on the Powershift:
However, subsequent journalistic investigations conducted after the Focus and Fiesta models were succeeded, has revealed that Ford engineers and executives were aware of the problems before and after the release of it, with developmental engineers even stating in company e-mails that there was "no driveable calibration" of the transmission, and with pre-production test engineers having to pull over out of traffic due to the transmission shifting into neutral. These were mainly caused by the clutch pack overheating, and the control module instructing clutches to disengage in order to prevent further damage; however faulty control modules may also exhibit such behaviour. However, Ford has repeatedly denied systemic problems even to their own dealerships, instead directing them to replace the transmission over and over even though it was never truly fixed.[10]
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It was junk and they knew it and shipped it anyway.
From the wikipedia page on the Powershift:
However, subsequent journalistic investigations conducted after the Focus and Fiesta models were succeeded, has revealed that Ford engineers and executives were aware of the problems before and after the release of it, with developmental engineers even stating in company e-mails that there was "no driveable calibration" of the transmission, and with pre-production test engineers having to pull over out of traffic due to the transmission shifting into neutral. These were mainly caused by the clutch pack overheating, and the control module instructing clutches to disengage in order to prevent further damage; however faulty control modules may also exhibit such behaviour. However, Ford has repeatedly denied systemic problems even to their own dealerships, instead directing them to replace the transmission over and over even though it was never truly fixed.[10]
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It was junk and they knew it and shipped it anyway.
Just under 2 months I’ve been driving my 2021 Raptor like this. No timeline on a replacement window switch.
The switch or the whole motor assembly? wouldn't there be two window switches, one in front other in back? I mean obviously that doesn't work otherwise you wouldn't have tapped the glass.
Compared to the foreign vehicles, over my few decades of awareness I’ve had the impression that they make reasonably average vehicles and every once in a while really good ones. My non-intimate knowledge of ford has mostly been, “basic trucks are a reasonably safe bet, cars are hit and miss.” I don’t think I’ve been wrong in my one ford purchase. If I had to buy another full-size, I would consider them again, and dodge as a 2nd. Tundra is too dern thirsty for me, I’ve just never agreed with gm design language. I *really like* the ecoboost power plants. Dodge gets the nod for interior, comfort, and handling, and admittedly I’m a fan of their e-torque mild hybrid, though I think they could do much more with it. I think Stellantis is doing dodge both a service and possibly a disservice by largely leaving them alone.
I’m trying to think of a decade when people weren’t saying this? always been new tech, and new tech issues. And old tech getting screwed up…
Well, we built a certain product for a Ford launch, and Ford decided to use a bigger bolt at the attachment point of our product, problem is, they did not tell us! So our mold was producing a bracket that had holes smaller, and the bolt/clip would not fit through it.
Problem is, this was right before a launch, so we are ramping up production.....we had 1200 of the units in the warehouse, $400 bucks a-piece.
So the engineers setup a jig in the tool room, and we milled out the hole in a fixture.... one-at-a-time.... took two weeks, and by that time the mold was reworked and the correct hole size was established.
*Certain details obscured for non disclosure reasons.
Problem is, this was right before a launch, so we are ramping up production.....we had 1200 of the units in the warehouse, $400 bucks a-piece.
So the engineers setup a jig in the tool room, and we milled out the hole in a fixture.... one-at-a-time.... took two weeks, and by that time the mold was reworked and the correct hole size was established.
*Certain details obscured for non disclosure reasons.
Sounds like how I'd imagine a company putting out **** would operate. Is it just complete and total ineptitude on Ford's part?
They originally thought it was the motor, the window was stuck down. They disconnected the motor but the glass wouldn’t stay up so they taped it. Waited a month for the motor and turns out, it’s the switch. Now waiting on a back ordered switch. Forums lead me to believe it’s a “master switch” that failed and keeps trying to roll the window down. I’m sure the trim will require replacement after 2 months of heat and sun baking the glue into the textured belt molding. There are more recalls/TSBs and a clunk from the shocks that I need to get resolved as well. I’ll be buying the Ford ESP if I end up keeping this truck.
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I couldn't imagine taking one of those "things" offload. Seems their best purpose is for girls to drive them to school and back.
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