VW 508.00 Does it really matter?

wildcatgoal said:
My 2019 Jetta gets changed using Liqui Moly Top Tech 6200 and a Hengst filter. Ends up costing as much as a dealer oil change!

I do not go to the dealer because god forbid I can get in and out of one those effing places in a reasonable period of time. I am not going to "make an appointment" for a bloody oil change and then wait there for 2 mother effing hours. No way. Peace out.
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Waiting is not evene biggest issue.
1 1/2 year ago they had recall on water pump for certain Tiguan's. I go there, they give me standard talk what should I change, I was not interested. Then we go into conversation about BG coolant flush. I told them: put in order that under NO circumstances they should do that. If they do, they will end up cleaning everything again with distilled water. I said: I do not want clogged heater core. And service advisor is: "yeah, we had those after flush."
So, they are selling product/service they know is problematic, but hey....
I really do not have patience for those conversations.
 
edyvw said:
Waiting is not evene biggest issue.
1 1/2 year ago they had recall on water pump for certain Tiguan's. I go there, they give me standard talk what should I change, I was not interested. Then we go into conversation about BG coolant flush. I told them: put in order that under NO circumstances they should do that. If they do, they will end up cleaning everything again with distilled water. I said: I do not want clogged heater core. And service advisor is: "yeah, we had those after flush."
So, they are selling product/service they know is problematic, but hey....
I really do not have patience for those conversations.
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You people have terrible dealerships, that's all I can say. Not all are like that.
 
edyvw said:
Waiting is not evene biggest issue.
1 1/2 year ago they had recall on water pump for certain Tiguan's. I go there, they give me standard talk what should I change, I was not interested. Then we go into conversation about BG coolant flush. I told them: put in order that under NO circumstances they should do that. If they do, they will end up cleaning everything again with distilled water. I said: I do not want clogged heater core. And service advisor is: "yeah, we had those after flush."
So, they are selling product/service they know is problematic, but hey....
I really do not have patience for those conversations.
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The dealer I bought my car from failed to file my registration paperwork with the state. I was pulled over for speeding (oops) and the officer considered arresting me for driving a stolen vehicle. I had my old license plate on the back (thinking it'd be registered by then). Thankfully purchase paperwork in the glovebox still... thank the lord baby jesus. Not a service center story, but... still... Autonation for the not win.

The dealer I did my first dealer oil change at (I did one at 5K prior) - which I made an appointment for - took 2 hours. I made the appt. at a dealer that was halfway to my destination on a road trip to hit the 10,000 mark more or less on the nose. When I arrived, they were taking in drive in cars with a train out the bay door because they were having an oil change discount special. I arrived about 20 minutes early for my appointment- was making pretty good time. I could have been gone by my actual appointment time if they prioritized appointments at all. They told me I wasn't eligible for the oil change discount because my car uses the 508.00 oil. Thus, they extended my roadtrip by 2 hours and acted like shady fools. The dealer was on a road with nothing but a closed motorcycle dealership and a McDonalds in reasonable walking distance. I had my dog and the VW dealership nor McDonalds wouldn't let me inside their building. It was raining, hard, and I sat under an awning outside for the entire time. OH, AND WHEN I ARRIVED AT MY DESTINATION, I SAW MY UNDERBODY PLASTIC PANEL WAS STARTING TO FALL OFF... THEY FORGOT HALF OF THE PLASTIC PINS IN THE FRONT.

The third dealer I went to for the 20K service took 3 hours and they tried to upsell me way above the factory-required maintenance to the tune of about $200. I did not make an appointment at this dealer, but I arrived at 8AM and was the first and only person in the service area. I understand others had appointments and came (all of them late, I could hear the excuses from the chairs) but there is no "fast oil change" at any VW dealership around me and I was at the time choosing to do the 10K oil changes with dealers for warranty purposes and had an hour to spare... not three.

My Chevy truck? The times I did the oil changes with them because they were included in the sale, I was in and out in 30 minutes. I got the usual upsells, but it wasn't salted with the tinge of aristocracy that VW dealership service writers put on my car because it's "German" (made in Mexico).

Rant over. I do NOT like the VW dealers I've been to so far. I have more stories... but I will just sit here, fart, drink a sip of coffee, and get to work.
 
I find that when using dealers, night-dropping is the way to go. Make an appointment online, night drop. Leave it for the day. They typically text from my dealer so any upsells are easier to deal with. Been doing it this way for years with zero drama from a number of dealers. Happy to say "no" all day but it's just less hassle.
 
My small VW dealer is awesome, just love them. They will try to upsell you engine oil additives at change time though, even though it says right in the manual oil additives void your warranty. That's my only nitpick with them.

They claim they have a no appointment needed for routine service but I've never tried just showing up.
 
wildcatgoal said:
The dealer I bought my car from failed to file my registration paperwork with the state. I was pulled over for speeding (oops) and the officer considered arresting me for driving a stolen vehicle. I had my old license plate on the back (thinking it'd be registered by then). Thankfully purchase paperwork in the glovebox still... thank the lord baby jesus. Not a service center story, but... still... Autonation for the not win.

The dealer I did my first dealer oil change at (I did one at 5K prior) - which I made an appointment for - took 2 hours. I made the appt. at a dealer that was halfway to my destination on a road trip to hit the 10,000 mark more or less on the nose. When I arrived, they were taking in drive in cars with a train out the bay door because they were having an oil change discount special. I arrived about 20 minutes early for my appointment- was making pretty good time. I could have been gone by my actual appointment time if they prioritized appointments at all. They told me I wasn't eligible for the oil change discount because my car uses the 508.00 oil. Thus, they extended my roadtrip by 2 hours and acted like shady fools. The dealer was on a road with nothing but a closed motorcycle dealership and a McDonalds in reasonable walking distance. I had my dog and the VW dealership nor McDonalds wouldn't let me inside their building. It was raining, hard, and I sat under an awning outside for the entire time. OH, AND WHEN I ARRIVED AT MY DESTINATION, I SAW MY UNDERBODY PLASTIC PANEL WAS STARTING TO FALL OFF... THEY FORGOT HALF OF THE PLASTIC PINS IN THE FRONT.

The third dealer I went to for the 20K service took 3 hours and they tried to upsell me way above the factory-required maintenance to the tune of about $200. I did not make an appointment at this dealer, but I arrived at 8AM and was the first and only person in the service area. I understand others had appointments and came (all of them late, I could hear the excuses from the chairs) but there is no "fast oil change" at any VW dealership around me and I was at the time choosing to do the 10K oil changes with dealers for warranty purposes and had an hour to spare... not three.

My Chevy truck? The times I did the oil changes with them because they were included in the sale, I was in and out in 30 minutes. I got the usual upsells, but it wasn't salted with the tinge of aristocracy that VW dealership service writers put on my car because it's "German" (made in Mexico).

Rant over. I do NOT like the VW dealers I've been to so far. I have more stories... but I will just sit here, fart, drink a sip of coffee, and get to work.
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You definitely need to find a different one, no doubt about it.

That was a good rant however.
 
wildcatgoal said:
The dealer I bought my car from failed to file my registration paperwork with the state. I was pulled over for speeding (oops) and the officer considered arresting me for driving a stolen vehicle. I had my old license plate on the back (thinking it'd be registered by then). Thankfully purchase paperwork in the glovebox still... thank the lord baby jesus. Not a service center story, but... still... Autonation for the not win.

The dealer I did my first dealer oil change at (I did one at 5K prior) - which I made an appointment for - took 2 hours. I made the appt. at a dealer that was halfway to my destination on a road trip to hit the 10,000 mark more or less on the nose. When I arrived, they were taking in drive in cars with a train out the bay door because they were having an oil change discount special. I arrived about 20 minutes early for my appointment- was making pretty good time. I could have been gone by my actual appointment time if they prioritized appointments at all. They told me I wasn't eligible for the oil change discount because my car uses the 508.00 oil. Thus, they extended my roadtrip by 2 hours and acted like shady fools. The dealer was on a road with nothing but a closed motorcycle dealership and a McDonalds in reasonable walking distance. I had my dog and the VW dealership nor McDonalds wouldn't let me inside their building. It was raining, hard, and I sat under an awning outside for the entire time. OH, AND WHEN I ARRIVED AT MY DESTINATION, I SAW MY UNDERBODY PLASTIC PANEL WAS STARTING TO FALL OFF... THEY FORGOT HALF OF THE PLASTIC PINS IN THE FRONT.

The third dealer I went to for the 20K service took 3 hours and they tried to upsell me way above the factory-required maintenance to the tune of about $200. I did not make an appointment at this dealer, but I arrived at 8AM and was the first and only person in the service area. I understand others had appointments and came (all of them late, I could hear the excuses from the chairs) but there is no "fast oil change" at any VW dealership around me and I was at the time choosing to do the 10K oil changes with dealers for warranty purposes and had an hour to spare... not three.

My Chevy truck? The times I did the oil changes with them because they were included in the sale, I was in and out in 30 minutes. I got the usual upsells, but it wasn't salted with the tinge of aristocracy that VW dealership service writers put on my car because it's "German" (made in Mexico).

Rant over. I do NOT like the VW dealers I've been to so far. I have more stories... but I will just sit here, fart, drink a sip of coffee, and get to work.
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I had pretty good experience with Gossett in Alpharetta when I was doing my DSG service on CC while living in Alabama. They did DSG service for $235, in and out in less than 2hrs. In Montgomery, dealer wanted $485 for DSG service :).
It depends! In GA, or at least in ATL, things should be good bcs. competition.
 
Cost aside...would there be any benefit in running a VW 508 oil in a Japanese, Korean or American made engine designed for 0w20 (or 5w20)?
 
wildcatgoal said:
The dealer I bought my car from failed to file my registration paperwork with the state. I was pulled over for speeding (oops) and the officer considered arresting me for driving a stolen vehicle. I had my old license plate on the back (thinking it'd be registered by then). Thankfully purchase paperwork in the glovebox still... thank the lord baby jesus. Not a service center story, but... still... Autonation for the not win.

The dealer I did my first dealer oil change at (I did one at 5K prior) - which I made an appointment for - took 2 hours. I made the appt. at a dealer that was halfway to my destination on a road trip to hit the 10,000 mark more or less on the nose. When I arrived, they were taking in drive in cars with a train out the bay door because they were having an oil change discount special. I arrived about 20 minutes early for my appointment- was making pretty good time. I could have been gone by my actual appointment time if they prioritized appointments at all. They told me I wasn't eligible for the oil change discount because my car uses the 508.00 oil. Thus, they extended my roadtrip by 2 hours and acted like shady fools. The dealer was on a road with nothing but a closed motorcycle dealership and a McDonalds in reasonable walking distance. I had my dog and the VW dealership nor McDonalds wouldn't let me inside their building. It was raining, hard, and I sat under an awning outside for the entire time. OH, AND WHEN I ARRIVED AT MY DESTINATION, I SAW MY UNDERBODY PLASTIC PANEL WAS STARTING TO FALL OFF... THEY FORGOT HALF OF THE PLASTIC PINS IN THE FRONT.

The third dealer I went to for the 20K service took 3 hours and they tried to upsell me way above the factory-required maintenance to the tune of about $200. I did not make an appointment at this dealer, but I arrived at 8AM and was the first and only person in the service area. I understand others had appointments and came (all of them late, I could hear the excuses from the chairs) but there is no "fast oil change" at any VW dealership around me and I was at the time choosing to do the 10K oil changes with dealers for warranty purposes and had an hour to spare... not three.

My Chevy truck? The times I did the oil changes with them because they were included in the sale, I was in and out in 30 minutes. I got the usual upsells, but it wasn't salted with the tinge of aristocracy that VW dealership service writers put on my car because it's "German" (made in Mexico).

Rant over. I do NOT like the VW dealers I've been to so far. I have more stories... but I will just sit here, fart, drink a sip of coffee, and get to work.
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OT but the dealer I bought my BMW 335d from registered it as a gas powered 335i. Talk about a surprise when I received an emissions inspection notice. :confused:
 
No more Gossett in Atlanta, Alpharetta is now Nalley. Based on my other experiences with Nalley run dealerships, I'd advise against it.
 
DuckRyder said:
No more Gossett in Atlanta, Alpharetta is now Nalley. Based on my other experiences with Nalley run dealerships, I'd advise against it.
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No experience with service at Nalley in Alpharetta. I did buy an oil change kit and wipers there. The parts people were very good. I use Jeff Smith in Warner Robins for any work. They are closer and pretty prompt. I do my own oil changes. The Tiguan is very easy to do.
 
pbm said:
Cost aside...would there be any benefit in running a VW 508 oil in a Japanese, Korean or American made engine designed for 0w20 (or 5w20)?
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Nope. Get a 0W20 designed for GDI engines from Walmart and change every 5K and move on with life... unless you insist on changing oil every 10K.
 
sohccammer427 said:
specifications that would make these oils non compatible, or is it more just a VW marketing thing.
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Its an oil specification that is used to help with fuel emissions, it only increases mpg by not too much, if your car is under warranty still I would recommend still using 0w20, but please don't go riding rough or letting the tachometer go above 3,000 rpm, Volkswagen still uses cast iron blocks and from what i've been taught and seen is that the tsi does not have a higher pressure oil pump to help sling the oil aggressively when thinner engine oils are used.

After warranty, I would recommend using a 5w30 or 5w40. Cast iron blocks were used for thicker oils in mind, but since your engine is equipped with a turbocharger I would avoid using a straight grade or above 15w40. keeping it a 5w40 is perfect after warranty, I don't want your engine getting worn out in the name of fuel efficiency.
 
xgmad said:
Its an oil specification that is used to help with fuel emissions, it only increases mpg by not too much, if your car is under warranty still I would recommend still using 0w20, but please don't go riding rough or letting the tachometer go above 3,000 rpm, Volkswagen still uses cast iron blocks and from what i've been taught and seen is that the tsi does not have a higher pressure oil pump to help sling the oil aggressively when thinner engine oils are used.

After warranty, I would recommend using a 5w30 or 5w40. Cast iron blocks were used for thicker oils in mind, but since your engine is equipped with a turbocharger I would avoid using a straight grade or above 15w40. keeping it a 5w40 is perfect after warranty, I don't want your engine getting worn out in the name of fuel efficiency.
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What does the block material have to do with oil viscosity?
 
xgmad said:
Its an oil specification that is used to help with fuel emissions, it only increases mpg by not too much, if your car is under warranty still I would recommend still using 0w20, but please don't go riding rough or letting the tachometer go above 3,000 rpm, Volkswagen still uses cast iron blocks and from what i've been taught and seen is that the tsi does not have a higher pressure oil pump to help sling the oil aggressively when thinner engine oils are used.

After warranty, I would recommend using a 5w30 or 5w40. Cast iron blocks were used for thicker oils in mind, but since your engine is equipped with a turbocharger I would avoid using a straight grade or above 15w40. keeping it a 5w40 is perfect after warranty, I don't want your engine getting worn out in the name of fuel efficiency.
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All VW for 0W20 oils (which I personally would not use) have variable oil pump.
 
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