Valvoline R&P Oil Burner Test Results

Perhaps vehicle dependent - I ran two rounds EC30 and two rounds of VRP with zero evidence of cleaning despite killing many filters along the way - so just went back to Mobil 1 bcs it was keeping it clean and zero consumption at 100k …
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Perhaps engine dependent for sure. Glad your quality oil is working for you.
 
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Amazing some of the "darlings" of oils you used from the get go let it get to 3 quarts in 5K at the first place. It is what it is and thanks for the quality updates. Hopefully things dont revert back with moving forward. You will know eventually and good luck.
I expect some hurt feelings. I was always in the 5k on quality oil camp until this car. Really makes me wonder what to do on my next new vehicle as I never want to deal with this again. Boutique? Hoping ESP is the answer.
 
Thanks for sharing these results Glenda, and thanks for staying with it! (y)

Your results seem to suggest that VRP has a unique cleaning ability, especially for piston ring deposit material. It also exemplifies that you may need to stick with it for at least 4 OCI, as Valvoline claims.
 
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I expect some hurt feelings. I was always in the 5k on quality oil camp until this car. Really makes me wonder what to do on my next new vehicle as I never want to deal with this again. Boutique? Hoping ESP is the answer.
Good thing you checked the oil level on a regular basis or it would have been worse and VRP wouldn’t fix that type of problem when owners let it get too low.

I am convinced some of those cars that burn crazy amounts of oil are caused by that. At least the ones driving down the street fogging the neighborhood.
 
I expect some hurt feelings. I was always in the 5k on quality oil camp until this car. Really makes me wonder what to do on my next new vehicle as I never want to deal with this again. Boutique? Hoping ESP is the answer.
In some ways, it could confirm why Valvoline doesn’t market their oils for extended drains as some engines may suffer deposits like this from extended service. Everything seems fine until oil consumption starts to increase. UOAs have limits in their usefulness to see evidence of change in the piston ring areas.

That said, it’s possible this could happen even on a boutique oil though less likely as they are formulated for extended service. It would’ve been interesting to see if Amsoil Signature Series kept consumption down with regular use prior, but all the same for ESP as the guinea pig; though by comparison is it marketed as an extended service life oil? 🤔
 
Just passed 5k miles on my 4th and final oci of Valvoline R&P for a total of 20k miles. It’s been hard to keep my mouth shut but here are the details and results!!

2018 Subaru Outback that I bought new. Started burning oil right at about 60k miles. Before that it only used about a 1/4 quart in a 5k mile oci. It started using 1 quart in 5k miles and steadily increased to almost 3 quarts in 5k miles. I was adding a little over a quart every 2k miles when I started this test. I have done every service myself on this vehicle including the pcv valve on time. I’ve only used a couple high quality full synthetic oils at 5k mile oci’s since new. The internals have always been spotless. I used a borescope and found oil wash on 3 pistons confirming my suspicion of stuck low tension oil rings. Here are the oils I’ve used in detail.

500-35k miles M1 FS 0w40
35k-100k miles Valvoline EP 5w30
100k-110k Amsoil SS 5w30
110k-130k Valvoline R&P 5w30

Results with R&P:

1st oci=no change

2nd oci= no change(almost gave up)

3rd oci=added 1/2 qt at 2k miles, 1/2 qt at 4k miles! Used a little over a quart in 5k mile oci.

4th oci=added 1/2 quart at 3k miles and used a total of less than 3/4 quart in 5k mile oci.

So R&P has improved my oil consumption from almost 3 quarts per 5k miles to less than 3/4 quarts in 5k miles. Not 100% but not to shabby if you ask me. I highly recommend people give R&P a try for at least 4 oci’s.

My plan is to run M1 ESP 0w30 for the foreseeable future. I want to see if this oil will keep my piston rings as is. I will continue to update this thread with any changes.

Why not continue VRP until you see no further improvement? Who knows, consumption could go back down to 1/4 quart in 5k miles
 
My plan is to run M1 ESP 0w30 for the foreseeable future. I want to see if this oil will keep my piston rings as is. I will continue to update this thread with any changes.
Gasoline is the main culprit of the ring lands getting stuck because it fills up with carbon. Gasoline, especially low-octane fuel, is cheap for a reason: it contains very little to no detergents. Personally, I use a fuel system cleaner twice between oil changes, maybe more often. It seems to help. I would definitely keep using Valvoline R&P and also use some fuel system cleaner, maybe Techron High Mileage or something similar. Red Line SI-1 is very good. PEA has a tendency to clean those carbon deposits.
 
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In some ways, it could confirm why Valvoline doesn’t market their oils for extended drains as some engines may suffer deposits like this from extended service. Everything seems fine until oil consumption starts to increase. UOAs have limits in their usefulness to see evidence of change in the piston ring areas.

That said, it’s possible this could happen even on a boutique oil though less likely as they are formulated for extended service. It would’ve been interesting to see if Amsoil Signature Series kept consumption down with regular use prior, but all the same for ESP as the guinea pig; though by comparison is it marketed as an extended service life oil? 🤔

All the acea oils are extended drain
 
Gasoline is the main culprit of the ring lands getting stuck because the fill up with carbon. Gasoline, especially low octane fuel is cheap for a reason: very little to no detergents in it. Personally, I run some kind of fuel system cleaner twice between oil changes, maybe more often. It seems to help. I would definitively keep using Valvoline R&P and also use some fuel system cleaner, maybe Techron High Mileage or something similar. Red Line SI-1 is very good. PEA has tendency to clean those carbon deposits.
I would use top tier fuel but it’s not sold close to where I live.

I don’t have the patience to shop at Costco let alone line up for gas.
 
Would you call 20k OCI extended? that's the norm. acea is the association of european car manufacturers, so guess what they would say....
Gotcha. I’ve yet to own EU vehicle, so I never considered their specs in details as I drive a Honda. Thanks for the info.
 
It's working! Time to stop using it. lol
I really don’t understand the mentality of using VRP as a cleaning regimen only. It’s seems ridiculous to me. Look at the UOAs of VRP. What oil at that price is delivering materially better UOAs?

People are acting like this stuff is MMO or some kind of sketchy cleaner that you need to abandon to go back to “real oil”. Well guess what, your “real oil” is the reason you needed VRP to begin with.
 
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