thats exactly why i always watch whats going in my car,i stand near the car the whole time.dont trust nobody.
Toyota dealer uncertainty in the oil viscosity used
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Nothing else matters if oil has lots of moly!
Well, then TGMO should do miracles for HEMIs
Well, then TGMO should do miracles for HEMIs
You cant tell me NO one has tried it yet
I almost considered it (I assume in the near future FCA will say the Hemi now needs 0W-20 only....)
Yeah he is VERY active in the very long Synthetic Oil thread on RAMforum
I tried the RL and it did make my Hemi sound quieter. But I drive so little (6K/year before Covid, not even close now), it seems a waste to change out $65 worth of oil once a year, so Im searching for less expensive, easier to obtain oils.
Already tried PYB and PUP and honestly PYB sounded better BUT I deal with cold weather and short trips, so I didnt want to run conventional all year.
QSUD (2017 formulation) is quieter than PUP, not as good as RL but it was basically free (Advance Auto clearance + rebates), but alas I dont have any more of the 2017 formulation. Have some RGT up next, and if I dont like that Ill try Valvoline Advanced.
I honestly don't see the problem using 0w20 vs 0w16. The engine is not going to explode and the only difference will be 0.02 % reduction in fuel economy. I try to pick my battles and this is one I would not bother with. Enjoy the free service.
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Here is how awesome TGMO is:
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It was about the earlier posts referencing the pour point of TGMO. It looks like it's not that great... for a 0W-20 oil, that is.
Unfortunately pour point (which isn't really being measured in that video) has been shown to not accurately represent the starting conditions in an ICE. That's why the winter rating exists.
Yet the ignorant videos are still being made to wow the masses.
That video is beyond ignorant. Using beads and whatever to demonstrate the properties of synthetic oil is laughable at best.
That test has so many holes in it. The “actor” has nothing better to do I guess. He (?) needs a job.
More fake synthetic where a majority PAO would pour easily at -40c/f
But SO the engine starts. What then.
But alternator bearings, wheel bearings, rear and front crank seals, boots, water pump seals
are all going to get trashed.
If you don't have to ( professionally) NEVER drive at temps where C and F meet
Just my take - and I have had this stuff fail on new Toyotas at sub zero temps.
I'm not driving at 10 below F or colder
But SO the engine starts. What then.
But alternator bearings, wheel bearings, rear and front crank seals, boots, water pump seals
are all going to get trashed.
If you don't have to ( professionally) NEVER drive at temps where C and F meet
Just my take - and I have had this stuff fail on new Toyotas at sub zero temps.
I'm not driving at 10 below F or colder
Agreed. Oil pumps don't pour the oil, they pump it.
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The person who made this video is an Amsoil dealer. I happen to like Amsoil products. YouTube is mostly entertainment, with facts being a distant second. In fact, I have no idea how "pour point" is actually measured, so if someone wants to show me, I'm very eager to learn.
Your initial comment on this video was more of a swipe at TGMO than anything else.
If you want to learn about oil then this is the place.
Motor Oil 101 - Chapter One - Operating Temperatures and Viscosity - Bob is the Oil Guy
Chapter One Understanding what viscosity grades mean can be confusing. The average driver just tries to follow what is in the owner’s manual – this is a good practice. Some owner’s manuals allow for different grades based on the predicted operating temperature. For example, they may specify a...
bobistheoilguy.com
It’s explained in ASTM D97
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Following what I read about its pour point in this thread, it isn't very reassuring, to say the least, that it behaves like this, for a 0W-20, when frozen. Of course, having never looked up how the pour point is actually measured, my comment and post was shortsighted, and I'm sorry for that.
I actually read most of it a good while ago, though I understand why you told me that. I have no issue with you, but sometimes I like to add a bit of humor to my posts. In this instance, it was misguided.
I just read through it, and the oil needs to be pre-heated first. It's also interesting how it can change over time as oil goes through heating and cooling cycles.
But what type of moly is it?
The tri-nuclear variety is very effective in small doses.
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