One of their biggest customers may have told them, no more price increases for a year. So they had to get creative and reduce costs or expenses in other ways.
The New Fram Ultra......
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One of their biggest customers may have told them, no more price increases for a year. So they had to get creative and reduce costs or expenses in other ways.
Biggest risk to these filters has to be media tearing after it becomes more restrictive, the back-up screen support was important or it wouldn't have been designed in to begin with...Hopefully the new design will perform or spose they could always bring back the screen once it doesn't pan out.
This has not been happening on other quality filters without metal backing. Perhaps if you push it to extremes going beyond 20k miles its a higher chance, but should not be the case for normal use
Yes, its very sad dayIf you have a popular filter size, like 7317 or 9688, chances are the metal ones are already gone.
Hah, of course both the CR-V and Odyssey take 7317s.If you have a popular filter size, like 7317 or 9688, chances are the metal ones are already gone.
If you have a popular filter size, like 7317 or 9688, chances are the metal ones are already gone.
I'll sell anyone a wire back Ultra from my stockpile for $15 or accept trades for Royal Purple 10-2867 or Amsoil EA15K13-EA filters.
Call my demands crazy now but soon the world will be out of wire backed Fram Ultras and if you want one you'll have to come to me. You'll pay... Oh yes... YOU... WILL... PAY!!!
New version has more filter area. That’s good.
Confirmed (7317). I'm not worried though.If you have a popular filter size, like 7317 or 9688, chances are the metal ones are already gone.
You got 7317 from amazon and its a new design?
Yes, the OG 7317 Ultras appear to be gone, they're a big mover. Slower sellers like the XG2, XG5, & XG8A are still around with the original design. The Ultra had TWO major features-full synthetic, high efficiency DEPTH media, not some sprayed on thin layer of unknown capacity, and a wire mesh reinforcement that allowed that media to retain its shape, no matter what, for freakish miles compared to other filters. Those features being gone, the Ultra is now NOT a premium filter, it is on a par with many much less expensive filters, and I will treat the newer Ultra as a one shot, 7500 mile or less filter. No better than a Rock Auto $1.48 Champ. Looking "forward" to the first one with torn media!
Well that’s a bit dramatic.
In the video the old style filter media was more heavy, probably due to metal backing
No, just speaking truth to First Brands' mistake. And not happy I got 3 XG7317s without the screen before this thread appeared... And, I'm out on this one, good luck to everybody with the new ones!
I just want to find out what the weight actually is. I was making a joke about people putting all their mundane life activities on social media as if it means something important. Anyway the thread is getting along further in numbers nicely. Will it hit 1000?
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New version has higher pleat count. You can't really contrast filter area because depth filtration doesn't operate on the same principle as pore block does.
It isn't really.
First Brands modified the filter to make it easier for them to manufacture and thus cheaper for them to manufacture.
The synthetic depth media was what made it an ultra, without depth media (which requires the wire backing) it is no longer an ultra.
Wait until they figure out that without the mesh, they can glue it all together to the fiber end caps they use on the rest and expect that change next.
Much as it pains me to say it, I'll take "boss" media of the "new improved" formally ultra.
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