PUP's fall from grace over the last 10 years?

[TurboZedd-R]

Please. Enlighten us.

How did you arrive at this conversational revelation with your Civic?

How did you measure viscosity?

My Civic never blew up during a PUP interval

 

[tired]

i don’t think anything is wrong with PUP and still recommend it. i think the large issue is availability and pricing. its not OTS at wally world anymore and parts houses want a fortune for a 5qt jug.

You can find it at lots of Walmarts. I think they just stock very little of it, and it sells fast. A friend was having a really hard time finding it, and he uses it exclusively in his two cars. He was starting to sweat. I started checking on Walmart online and found they update the inventory sometime early AM overnight. So he checked the app when he woke up and started seeing it in stock. He placed a pickup order when it was available and was able to replenish his stock in a few trips. It did take a few days. Sometimes only 1 jug was available.

Just keep checking online. It'll show up. You might have to check more than one Walmart. The one closest to me never carries it.

 

[Sumboodie]

I know the 0w40 is pricey. A drum runs around $2200 if I remember right.

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

My 02 Camry V6 hates anything mobil

Funny you say that.
Our 08 FJC has used Mobil 1, 5w30 since new. Oil changes have always been done at or before 5k.
I noticed a bit of oil smoke on startup, it doesn’t use any between changes.

Recently switched to VRP, I swear the engine is considerably quieter. The 4.0 is known to be a bit noisy.

Will see how this goes……

 

[tired]

Funny you say that.
Our 08 FJC has used Mobil 1, 5w30 since new. Oil changes have always been done at or before 5k.
I noticed a bit of oil smoke on startup, it doesn’t use any between changes.

Recently switched to VRP, I swear the engine is considerably quieter. The 4.0 is known to be a bit noisy.

Will see how this goes……

It seems like a lot of people have noticed that their engine is quieter on VRP.

 

[esandes]

Realize that the German Castrol 0W-30 was a BITOG Favorite for many members. The oil is not available anymore, it always stayed true.

Realize that PUP did not stay true, or we can say it changed.

There is a German-made Pennzoil Platinum Euro LX 0W-30 though. It's the only oil I use in my $125,000 Mercedes.

I've been using different PP products for years in extreme conditions and it has outperformed other big name brands I have used. I regret not using it earlier.

Has it lost credibility? Not to those who know and have real engines in extreme conditions.

 

[Intelligent Molecule]

There is a German-made Pennzoil Platinum Euro LX 0W-30 though. It's the only oil I use in my $125,000 Mercedes.

I've been using different PP products for years in extreme conditions and it has outperformed other big name brands I have used. I regret not using it earlier.

Has it lost credibility? Not to those who know and have real engines in extreme conditions.

I don't own (or want) a $125, 000 Mercedes (or any Mercedes for that matter), but I do believe my Toyota with 276k miles has a "real" engine also. And it's made it that far without any German made Euro whatever.

 

[tired]

There is a German-made Pennzoil Platinum Euro LX 0W-30 though. It's the only oil I use in my $125,000 Mercedes.

I've been using different PP products for years in extreme conditions and it has outperformed other big name brands I have used. I regret not using it earlier.

Has it lost credibility? Not to those who know and have real engines in extreme conditions.

Outperformed by what metric?

I assume this is an E class?

 

[OilUzer]

There are standards of decorum on this forum and you seem to have forgotten what they are.

Maybe you should sleep it off before posting again.

I think he's messing with us or using a thin oil.

 

[MuzzleFlash40]

What in the world . Did we just get called peasants by a guy in a 3 year old GLE? I feel like we’re being trolled. Has to be lol

 

[dnewton3]

Knock off the bickering and taunts, please; stick to the topic at hand.
Several posts have been deleted. Let's not get distracted and have the thread shut down.

Carry on.

 

[HouseTiger]

It’s my understanding VRP is GTL? That would make VRP a no brainer for me.
Would love for someone to confirm that, I forget where I read or heard that.
But I am hooked on VRP now even if it’s not GTL.
PUP is difficult to find as said before.

I would like that confirmation myself. I'm still looking for the definitive list of all PCMO that are GTL based.

 

[tired]

Outperformed by what metric?

I assume this is an E class?

BTW, I couldn't find the GLE on the list, but another list of no driver fatalities (there is no list of any death in the car), also includes the Kia Sorento. So, esteemed company here.

 

[ndarkside93]

My local Walmart has Pennzoil Ultra Platinum again. Going to be using it for the wife’s and my moms car this oil change cycle

 

[Astro14]

My local Walmart has Pennzoil Ultra Platinum again. Going to be using it for the wife’s and my moms car this oil change cycle

It’s an excellent choice.

 

[Sienna dude]

I'd say it relates to more competition in the market. Besides, Quaker State is pretty much the same stuff for +- $3 per 5 quarts cheaper.

It is not the same stuff, it is not GTL.

 

[Sienna dude]

PUP is to thin like water. My Civic don't like it.

What? Their 0w20 is 8.8 centistokes and 5w30 10.4. If that's water thin then what is thick? So much misinformation here it is crazy

 

[Sienna dude]

Valve train noise. When drained it looked as thin as water. No other oil i have used did this. Not scientific but i know my engine and it did not like PUP.

SMH

 

[ripcord]

Valve train noise. When drained it looked as thin as water. No other oil i have used did this. Not scientific but i know my engine and it did not like PUP.

 

[Sienna dude]

PUP took off because of the natural gas hype and Project Farm oil races. All that’s worn off now. I did try it back in 2012 in a Subaru and the oil consumption went through the roof. Nothing scientific but never tried it again, I’m sure it’s fine.

Oil comsumption? Dude GTL gas better volatility than PAO even.

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Looks like that oil does not want to be in that BMW