New Mobil 1 Oil Web Page - EP Oils

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Originally posted by 427Z06:
I wonder how the M1R 0w30 now fits into the scheme of things? I see it's now off to the side with a separate link. Would the M1 Extended 10w40 make a good substitute for no M1R 10w40? Or are these totally different formulations for totally different purposes?
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For all we know right now, M1 10W40 could just be Delvac-1 with a different label.

Obviously the 10W-40 grade is targeted at a segment of the market who wants to move to a top-notch premium synthetic oil, but also subscribes to the 'thicker is better' syndrome. Just look at all the confusion over 0W-20 in Hondas, read the thread on nondetergent dino oils to realize just how uneducated the driving public is with respect to motor oils.
 
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Originally posted by pitzel:
For all we know right now, M1 10W40 could just be Delvac-1 with a different label.
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No the viscosity is 91.3cSt@40C and 14.2cSt@100C for the M1 10w-40 EP, where D1 is 102cSt@40C and 14.8cSt@100C. These are probably totally different formulas. I think the M1 10w-40 EP will be a better choice for gassers looking at the viscosity at 40C and 100C.
 
Wow lots of new products. It looks like they have discontinued plain old drive clean oil, but kept the blend as a high mileage oil.

Can't wait to see the new VOAs coming in.
 
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Originally posted by Bobert:
No the viscosity is 91.3cSt@40C and 14.2cSt@100C for the M1 10w-40 EP, where D1 is 102cSt@40C and 14.8cSt@100C.
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I'm guessing you found links to the PDSs, care to share the links? Thanks in Advance.
 
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Wow lots of new products. It looks like they have discontinued plain old drive clean oil, but kept the blend as a high mileage oil.

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This might answer that question from Mobil Clean 5000: " With Mobil Clean 5000, you’ll get 16 percent more cleaning agents than our conventional oil, Mobil Clean (available in installed facilities only)."

I'm guessing "our conventional oil, Mobil Clean" is referring to Drive Clean. Does this mean it's now just a bulk oil for dealerships & the like??
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i use the 15w50 in my 74 cuda and 70 challenger, looks like i will using the new 10 40 or the new 15 50 next time.

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Originally posted by nel:
It looks like they're discontinuing the regular Mobil 1 15W50 (I didn't see it along with other grades on the new website). They have that grade in the new extended performance formula only.

This means we'll end up having to find the new Extended Performance oils if we want to thicken our Mobil 1 brew.
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can someone explain to me. what is the main differences between this NEW mobil1 and lets just say amsoil series 2000 and or series 3000 ? i was just wondering
 
Hmm..... that Mobil 1 Extended Performance has a 10W40! I'm happy with the 0W40 but it's good to know that I have 10W40 as an option.

Look what this says:

Does the Mobil 1 Extended Performance meet GF-4 regulations? How did the new regulation impact the development of the high-endurance product line?

Mobil 1 Extended Performance contains extra performance additives to deliver exceptional performance and protection. This fully synthetic technology is designed specifically for longer service intervals, and as a result, does not meet the requirements for ILSAC GF-4, which are designed for fuel economy and performance.
 
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Mobil 1 Extended Performance contains extra performance additives to deliver exceptional performance and protection. This fully synthetic technology is designed specifically for longer service intervals, and as a result, does not meet the requirements for ILSAC GF-4, which are designed for fuel economy and performance.
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Clever marketing...for some I guess. I think the GF-4 spec is tough to work with. I know that for long drains, Amsoil/Mobil etc. will have to keep the addtives probably high and not have the GF-4 rating. Amsoil will probably do the same and offer something GF-4 like the XL line and keep the regular stuff for long drains. I'm just guessing but thats how I see it now. But then again, the new 7500 stuff is a blend and GF-4 so I have no clue.....
 
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Were competitive brands included in testing of the new Mobil high-endurance line? If so, which brands and how did they perform compare to the new Mobil products?

We do not cite competitive brands that we test against. This line-up consists of completely new products, and with these products, we are setting a new standard in oil change intervals. We can assure you that the new products were tested against quality products that are representative of branded competition.

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Were these tests and results conducted and validated by an independent third party?

In many cases, our additive suppliers actually conducted the testing. This is very common in our industry and deemed an acceptable practice.

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It looks like they're discontinuing the regular Mobil 1 15W50 (I didn't see it along with other grades on the new website). They have that grade in the new extended performance formula only.

This means we'll end up having to find the new Extended Performance oils if we want to thicken our Mobil 1 brew.
 
Thats a premium fleet of oils there . Even the Clean 5000 has the CF behind it .

Who will be the first one here to take the Clean 7500 to 10k ?
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I hope when the new data sheets are available that they show the MRV's and stuff for all of these oils .
 
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Originally posted by pitzel:
For all we know right now, M1 10W40 could just be Delvac-1 with a different label.
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No the viscosity is 91.3cSt@40C and 14.2cSt@100C for the M1 10w-40 EP, where D1 is 102cSt@40C and 14.8cSt@100C. These are probably totally different formulas. I think the M1 10w-40 EP will be a better choice for gassers looking at the viscosity at 40C and 100C.
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Plus the additive pack for Delvac 1 is very different from that of the 0w40. The 0w40 has moly in it for instance, Delvac has none.
 
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Originally posted by Roger:
I could be wrong, but it still appears that Mobil dropped the ACEA A5/B5 for the new API SM M1 5W30. The old SL did meet this standard. http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_5W-30.aspx

While the new API SM Mobil 1 EP 5W30 does indeed meet A5/B5: http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Extended_Performance_5W-30.aspx

Also looks like API SM, non-EP M1 10W30 still meets A5/B5.

Probably doesn't matter much anyway.
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Sorry, I misread your post Roger. It looks like the marketing sheet doesn't match the data sheet. The marketing sheet has no mention of A5/B5 but the data sheet linked from it does. But the linked data sheet is for the SL version. You have to wonder why they'd reformulate it to a lesser standard unless that was part of the changes for SM.

It's hard to get excited when we don't really know what we're looking at for sure or what will actually be sold...
 
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