New Mobil 1 C40 GT 0W-40
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Thanks. It's green (and Zirconium) just like any VW 508 00/Porsche C20 . . .
Thanks. It's green (and Zirconium) just like any VW 508 00/Porsche C20 . . .
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The green colour is a marker.
Interesting, thanks for posting.
Can someone help me understand why Mobil 1 makes so many 0w40 oils, especially when 4 appear to be very similiar:
Supercar 0w40
ESP X3 0w40
ESP X4 0w40
C40 GT
Why so many? True differences for specification approvals or you badge it 4 ways, larger market?
Can someone help me understand why Mobil 1 makes so many 0w40 oils, especially when 4 appear to be very similiar:
Supercar 0w40
ESP X3 0w40
ESP X4 0w40
C40 GT
Why so many? True differences for specification approvals or you badge it 4 ways, larger market?
Of course. Just like with any VW 508 00/509 00 and Porsche C20.
Same dye, both with with Zr.
Probably this M1 C40 GT could be an opportunity for those whose
car's called for VW 508 00 or Porsche C20 who love to use a thicker
oil, while mimicking 508 00/C20. This is the one. And I like this idea.
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Different approvals, different markets. I doubt the 'protection' vital differing . . .
M1 ESP X4 is simply ESP X3's successor. These are all great 0W-40 offerings, but
some 5W-30 are still superior in (lower) Noack values just because using less VII.
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This is interestingly worded: “Due to a change in requirements”. It reads like they found out plain C40 wasn’t sufficient for whatever reason. A bit mysterious.
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For me, it's just a demarkation. I can't imagine that the advantages of the C40 GT are so great that the normal C40 is "bad". Maybe it's just to equip all Porsche teams with identical resources and earn money on the side.
Ive read on rennlist it also had to do with the cam followers on gt engines or something to that extent
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If my car came with that water based approval VW508.00/509.00, this would be my go to during warrantyEdit, buster's quicker . . . .
Thanks. It's green (and Zirconium) just like any VW 508 00/Porsche C20 . . .
I did a search and it seems there is also speculation that this is due to the about-to-happen change to ESP X4, which may not meet some criteria that Porsche wants for the GT motors that X3 currently satisfies. It does seem the ESP X3 and C40 GT are extremely similar based on specs and the VOA / FTIR. We’ll have to see what the X4 looks like when it hits.
Im wondering if esp x4 will keep POE or not. The PAO is increased per the msds
Hard to say, there is speculation to that regard, but no one knows for sure. The oil analyis posted here doesn't really point much to that direction. Mobil 1 5W50 Supercar was derived to combat similiar issues in LT6 in the 2023 Corvette Z06, but in this case on paper in the VOA they increased viscocity, ZDDP, and Moly. This Porsche C40 GT oil doesn't appear much different at all from the Mobil 1 ESP X3. High HTHS and high wear additives in boundry conditions (low speed, high load) are directionally correct, but niether changed with C40 GT.
I really like Mobil 1 5W50 Supercar in the VOA, but I am not an expert.
It's almost like they are going to keep the GT cars on ESP X3 (with a slight improvement), and moved everything else to a lighter oil.
I'd give this C40 GT oil a go, if they made it in 5W50. Doubt they ever will.
Yes, that MSDS corresponds finely to what I supposed some weeks ago:
Looks like it's finally up on their webpage unless it was there all this time and I didn't notice it. VI of 199 and HT/HS of 3.8. Very interesting oil. I'd love to know what's in it.
"It is the latest technology developed within the framework of the collaboration established with Porsche AG for over the last 30 years."
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-c40-gt-0w-40
"It is the latest technology developed within the framework of the collaboration established with Porsche AG for over the last 30 years."
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-c40-gt-0w-40
From the PDS it's essentially identical to ESP X4 0w40. Must have some secret sauce.
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-esp-x4-0w-40
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It was only developed to better protect the DLC coating from wear. I don't think other engines need it or will benefit from it.
I wonder how it does that?
