New 2023 Corolla and 0W-8 oil

[wpod]

If you use 0w16 oil, you'll kill the environment and waste precious resources.

What about the U.S. military burning millions upon millions of barrels of fuel daily?

 

[Deleted member 89374]

Let's see what the owner's manual says:

Where's that 0W-8???

The 16 in 0W-16 indicates the viscosity characteristic of the oil when the oil is at high temperature. An oil with a higher viscosity (one with a higher value) may be better suited if the vehicle is operated at high speeds, or under extreme load conditions.

 

[gregk24]

I’m not losing any sleep over it either, bud. In my experience, Toyota care sucks. Between wasting hours at the dealer, dealing with oily hand prints on my seats (it’s happened to me on a prior vehicle), over tightened filters and plugs, it’s far easier to do it myself.

Exactly why I do my own oil changes.

 

[THORROMIG]

For my new Rav4 Hybrid in signature --- I plan on draining the 0W16 at 1000 miles and jumping right to the 0W20 for the long haul. Probably even 5W20 at some point during ownership?????

 

[Deleted member 89374]

Probably even 5W20 at some point during spring/summer months.

No difference between 0W-20 and 5W-20 in the summer. Go 5W-30 for hot climate.

 

[ATex7239]

All the Bobs recommending using 0w16…

Me:

 

[02zx9r rev2]

Since when is M1 FS 0W-40 thick? It used to be labeled as an Energy Conserving motor oil... way back ... when.

Now, who doesn't like a SportWagen in brown?
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That is a sharp looking wagon

 

[JustinH]

Toyota builds the most reliable cars in the world. I would use the toyota care and let them put whatever they want in it and call it good. Drink the coffee in the dealership for a couple years.

 

[georgemiller]

So I just bought a gas 2023 Corolla with the 2.0 as a commuter. Toyota calls for 0W-8 oil for this. I’m fairly certain they made a change within the last month or so from 0W-16. I do my own oil changes and sourcing OW-8 seems about impossible. The manual does say you can use 0W-16 but it must be changed to 0W-8 at the next change. My wife has a camry that calls for 0W-16 and I would like to use the same oil in both. I’m aware of the car care nuts videos stating that these dynsmic farce engines need the oil grades Toyota calls for, and I believe there are threads here disparaging his claims.

I’m all about giving my vehicles the best protection. Does the Corolla really need this pathetic water oil, or is it just for CAFE standards and to get .1 better MPG? I doubt they would have made a mechanical change mid-year that would necessitate the lighter grade, or would they? Should I go even heavier for both vehicles at 0W-20? At least then I’d have way more options.

Any comments would be appreciated.

My daughter just got a '23 Corolla. What oil filter does this call for?

 

[Greasymechtech]

My daughter just got a '23 Corolla. What oil filter does this call for?

Because Toyota hates the environment, it gets one that is disposed of in a landfill and not washed in a parts washer.

 

[JustN89]

What nobody recommending M1 0W40 Euro yet? BITOG thickies slipping.

Shhh… there will be no more M1 0W-40 left for the rest of us to support our 3k mile OCIs.

 

[PimTac]

Because Toyota hates the environment, it gets one that is disposed of in a landfill and not washed in a parts washer.

 

[TiGeo]

Since when is M1 FS 0W-40 thick? It used to be labeled as an Energy Conserving motor oil... way back ... when.

Now, who doesn't like a SportWagen in brown?
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Amazing. Entir Facebook group for diesel brown manual station wagons.

 

[PimTac]

HPL makes a 0W-8 oil.


https://www.hplubricants.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/PC-Premium-Plus-Engine-Oil-PDS.pdf

 

[Greasymechtech]

http://www.royalpurple.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Royal-Purple-XPR-Motor-Oil-PDS-26Mar2021.pdf

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

Buy 0w-8 from Toyota.

Buy 0W-8 from @High Performance Lubricants

15W-50. Or just whatever they list as acceptable in the manual. It’s a Corolla, it’ll run on anything and outlive most cockroaches.

4AFE engine ones will, I don't know about the other ones

Beware the Indiana (TMMI) and Kentucky (TMMKY) Tototas. TMMTX ones may be okay. The Japan and Canada ones as well.

@PimTac you beat me to it lol.

Toyota probably uses Idemitsu but having worked there.. I wouldn't trust that it is Idemitsu over some Highline Warren manufacturer along the supply route to keep production going . Quality? Ha..

HPL makes a 0W-8 oil.


https://www.hplubricants.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/PC-Premium-Plus-Engine-Oil-PDS.pdf

 

[Brian123]

HPL makes a 0W-8 oil.


https://www.hplubricants.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/PC-Premium-Plus-Engine-Oil-PDS.pdf

Problem solved, that only took 53 posts! LOL

 

[fedvet]

So I just bought a gas 2023 Corolla with the 2.0 as a commuter. Toyota calls for 0W-8 oil for this. I’m fairly certain they made a change within the last month or so from 0W-16. I do my own oil changes and sourcing OW-8 seems about impossible. The manual does say you can use 0W-16 but it must be changed to 0W-8 at the next change. My wife has a camry that calls for 0W-16 and I would like to use the same oil in both. I’m aware of the car care nuts videos stating that these dynsmic farce engines need the oil grades Toyota calls for, and I believe there are threads here disparaging his claims.

I’m all about giving my vehicles the best protection. Does the Corolla really need this pathetic water oil, or is it just for CAFE standards and to get .1 better MPG? I doubt they would have made a mechanical change mid-year that would necessitate the lighter grade, or would they? Should I go even heavier for both vehicles at 0W-20? At least then I’d have way more options.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Get those first two OCF gratis at Toyota. Stick with OEM manual recommendations-I suspect there may be a bit of wiggle room for the viscosity. Otherwise, key are frequent OCF in conjunction with your other preventative maintenance. 5K miles for a daily driver isn’t too much. The car will thank you.

 

[dkryan]

Buy 0W-8 from @High Performance Lubricants


4AFE engine ones will, I don't know about the other ones

Beware the Indiana (TMMI) and Kentucky (TMMKY) Tototas. TMMTX ones may be okay. The Japan and Canada ones as well.

@PimTac you beat me to it lol.

Toyota probably uses Idemitsu but having worked there.. I wouldn't trust that it is Idemitsu over some Highline Warren manufacturer along the supply route to keep production going . Quality? Ha..

What’s your problem with Indiana and Kentucky built “Tototas?” (sic)

 

[JavierH19]

If it can take 0w-8 it can take 5w-30. Here's a post i made about it 2 years ago. 0w-8 is nothing new.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/0w-8-in-the-new-non-us-yaris-hybrid.341590/