Man accidentally shot and killed in gun shop

I have some unpopular thoughts also.
I think every shooting should go in front of a Grand Jury.

I would think this would be some level of unintentional/manslaughter.
No matter what we think, a man lost his life, his family deserves closure.
Every shooting go in front of a Grand Jury? Even self defense? Let's be real!
 

I knew him. He was one of my former students. He was shot and killed when another customer in a gun shop was manipulating a firearm and it discharged. I saw in another story the case was taken before a grand jury but the shooter was not indicted. I haven’t heard any further details if it was a gun the shooter carried in or if he was examining one from the store inventory, so I don’t know how a live round found it’s way into the gun.

I’ve never been present when someone has had an unintended discharge, but I know it has happened at gun shows I’ve attended. I’m not sure what you can do to prevent being a victim of this except perhaps to be ultra-vigilant about watching where other people point their muzzles.

It goes without saying this wouldn’t have ended in tragedy had the gun been pointed in a safe direction.
A friend of mine got shot in the liver in a Dallas area gun store. Young guy in the back was handling a hand gun when it went off, came thru the wall and hit my friend. He was in the front talking to the owner. He was in serious condition for a while. He's doing well now and owns half of the gun store. Think he was friends with the store owner.
 
You must be a California implant to Texas
Nope, 3rd or 4th generation.

If its all good, GJ will find the same.
I like the oversite..... I get really suspicious of people who don't.... makes me think they are trying to hide something.
 

I knew him. He was one of my former students. He was shot and killed when another customer in a gun shop was manipulating a firearm and it discharged. I saw in another story the case was taken before a grand jury but the shooter was not indicted. I haven’t heard any further details if it was a gun the shooter carried in or if he was examining one from the store inventory, so I don’t know how a live round found it’s way into the gun.

I’ve never been present when someone has had an unintended discharge, but I know it has happened at gun shows I’ve attended. I’m not sure what you can do to prevent being a victim of this except perhaps to be ultra-vigilant about watching where other people point their muzzles.

It goes without saying this wouldn’t have ended in tragedy had the gun been pointed in a safe direction.
I experienced an accidental discharge of a 30.30 lever action rifle one late evening. Thank God the gun , I was holding was not pointed in the direction of anyone on the patio at the time.

Brother-in-law's 30.30 was slightly damaged from being stored in a bad spot. Not in a gun case and under / behind a truck seat. Bad storage location allowed the loading tube to get a slight bent.

He handed it to me to inspect to see it if would harm the operation. I cocked it , pointing at the sky in an attempt to empty the gun and BOOM! Blew our ear drums and certainly woke us all up. I never did like lever action rifles before that and certainly none since.
 
I experienced an accidental discharge of a 30.30 lever action rifle one late evening. Thank God the gun , I was holding was not pointed in the direction of anyone on the patio at the time.

Brother-in-law's 30.30 was slightly damaged from being stored in a bad spot. Not in a gun case and under / behind a truck seat. Bad storage location allowed the loading tube to get a slight bent.

He handed it to me to inspect to see it if would harm the operation. I cocked it , pointing at the sky in an attempt to empty the gun and BOOM! Blew our ear drums and certainly woke us all up. I never did like lever action rifles before that and certainly none since.
How did the hammer come down and strike the firing pin? How old was this gun?

Lever actions can be very safe, any gun of course dangerous if damaged or bubba'd.
 
How did the hammer come down and strike the firing pin? How old was this gun?

Lever actions can be very safe, any gun of course dangerous if damaged or bubba'd.

Gun was pretty new and slightly damaged. There was a kink in the loading tube. There was also something I did not notice. A sharp "burr" on the hammer that kind of knicked / cut into my thumb that caused me to release it allowing the gun to go off. Straight out into the air.
Thank goodness the cabin was miles in the middle of no place in a northern Mississippi woodland.
Back story of course:
We were being a bunch of TRUE Bubba's , passing around the mountain spirits and handling guns. Duh................ 20 to 25 yr olds.
A definite NO NO. Young and dumb we were back in those days. Three to four hour drive in heavy traffic after all day of work had most
of us worn out and near seeing double time we got to camp and started getting tuned up. :oops: All playing poker, sipping shine and firearms all layed out all over the patio and garage. STUPID as Forest Gump said.
 
Gun was pretty new and slightly damaged. There was a kink in the loading tube. There was also something I did not notice. A sharp "burr" on the hammer that kind of knicked / cut into my thumb that caused me to release it allowing the gun to go off. Straight out into the air.
Thank goodness the cabin was miles in the middle of no place in a northern Mississippi woodland.
Back story of course:
We were being a bunch of TRUE Bubba's , passing around the mountain spirits and handling guns. Duh................ 20 to 25 yr olds.
A definite NO NO. Young and dumb we were back in those days. Three to four hour drive in heavy traffic after all day of work had most
of us worn out and near seeing double time we got to camp and started getting tuned up. :oops: All playing poker, sipping shine and firearms all layed out all over the patio and garage. STUPID as Forest Gump said.
Trigger finger on trigger, transfer bar must have been in fire position to allow hammer to strike firing pin. WELL DANG GLAD YOU ARE HERE TO TELL THE STORY!
 
I think every shooting should go in front of a Grand Jury.

Yes, every shooting.... or I should have qualified it by saying every shooting that results in a death.

If it is believed to be an accident then it may be difficult to prove a "crime" was committed. Even criminal negligence has some elements that would be difficult to bring to a jury in a case like this. Prosecutors have a responsibility to not flagrantly charge people; they should only bring charges that they believe are warranted.
This will likely go before a jury, but it will be a civil trial; still one of negligence but not criminal. Or it may be settled out of court. To say a Grand Jury is needed for every death is a silly waste of resources; time and money that prosecutors don't just have laying about.

What makes you think that a court can automatically bring closure? Isn't that presumptuous thinking that the grieving family wants to have this dragged out in the press, and over prolonged months of anguish? YOU might want a case to be charged if it were someone close to you who was killed. But to assume that everyone wants that same experience is forcing your will unto others.

GJs and trials should be brought into play when the facts and likelihood of success demand it; not emotions.
 
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