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[ZeeOSix]

 

[kschachn]

Wait, so what you’re saying is that as long as it’s within certain parameters within a certification it doesn’t matter?

Then what the heck are we here for? Why care one bit about any oil you purchase - as long as it has a certification - it does matter what’s in that bottle, in comparison to other brands. Why even have different brands? just have all the oil manufacturers melt all their bottles together and call it a day.

I mean, why have different car brands? As long as they all can go 0- the speed limit, it’s all the same, right?

Well maybe you can explain how it matters. I for one am not able to read the tea leaves of a PDS sheet typical values or a UOA and predict the future performance of a motor oil. Perhaps you are but I am not.

In this particular case about Noack I’ve never seen any data that the range in reported values for a particular approval are significant. As I said above, the reproducibility and repeatability of the Noack test is low as well.

And yes that is exactly how I purchase motor oil. I find the least expensive one that has the approval, license or certification I’m looking for. I’m not sure what your comparison to car brands has to do with anything considering that cars are not built to a standard or approval that I am aware of.

 

[kschachn]

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What’s the problem with that

I mean all you’re missing is the brand name. Brand names don’t mean a whole lot do they? Is Pennzoil superior to Castrol just by the name?

 

[john_pifer]

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Not fooling me! That’s an Exxon-Mobil bottle!

 

[aquariuscsm]

 

[ZeeOSix]

What’s the problem with that

I mean all you’re missing is the brand name. Brand names don’t mean a whole lot do they? Is Pennzoil superior to Castrol just by the name?

I'll admit I compare specs and pick an oil that has the better HTHS and Noack numbers within the viscosity I'm researching. Also within a viscosity, like 5W-30, I will look at the KV100 viscosity because I don't necessarily want a "thin" 30 weight. Moly in the formulation is also something else I look for.

The more you know about oil, the more you compare specs ... I think any oil manic on BITOG will attest to that.

 

[doublebase]

Well maybe you can explain how it matters. I for one am not able to read the tea leaves of a PDS sheet typical values or a UOA and predict the future performance of a motor oil. Perhaps you are but I am not.

In this particular case about Noack I’ve never seen any data that the range in reported values for a particular approval are significant. As I said above, the reproducibility and repeatability of the Noack test is low as well.

And yes that is exactly how I purchase motor oil. I find the least expensive one that has the approval, license or certification I’m looking for. I’m not sure what your comparison to car brands has to do with anything considering that cars are not built to a standard or approval that I am aware of.

I’m happy that you buy the lowest priced synthetic oil with an approval rating, I pretty much do the same thing, however this is an oil site and some find measurable characteristics of oil important. If you’re not able to read the tea leaves of a PDS sheet, why do you say something doesn’t matter on it as long as it meets a certain threshold? When there are measurable characteristics that are better than acceptable? That’s like saying, well Michael Jordan and myself can both dribble a basketball and put it in the basket: so there’s no difference between me and Michael Jordan (And I realize Michael Jordan and myself aren’t built to a standard or approval, it’s an analogy).

 

[bbhero]

Not fooling me! That’s an Exxon-Mobil bottle!

Got that right ^^^^^^

Mobil Super synthetic it is... Or Mobil Super.

Though it could be Toyota motor oil....

 

[blufeb95]

Not fooling me! That’s an Exxon-Mobil bottle!

But what is it exactly Mobil, Mobil Super, Mobil1, TGMO, AC Delco?

 

[BLND1]

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But the option of knowing it as part of the overall specs/information, like viscosity, etc. would be nice.

Wait, so what you’re saying is that as long as it’s within certain parameters within a certification it doesn’t matter?

Then what the heck are we here for? Why care one bit about any oil you purchase - as long as it has a certification - it does matter what’s in that bottle, in comparison to other brands. Why even have different brands? just have all the oil manufacturers melt all their bottles together and call it a day.

I mean, why have different car brands? As long as they all can go 0- the speed limit, it’s all the same, right?

If you dig deep in your post you’ll find the hidden truth about all marketing.

It will bake your noodle when you realize how truly devious marketing is. Why? Because IT doesn’t MATTER. It only matters because you THINK it matters.

 

[BLND1]

I'll admit I compare specs and pick an oil that has the better HTHS and Noack numbers within the viscosity I'm researching. Also within a viscosity, like 5W-30, I will look at the KV100 viscosity because I don't necessarily want a "thin" 30 weight. Moly in the formulation is also something else I look for.

The more you know about oil, the more you compare specs ... I think any oil manic on BITOG will attest to that.

I pick based on bottle color and design, as well as who sponsors my favorite racecar drivers.

Let’s guess whose method is best.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I pick based on bottle color and design, as well as who sponsors my favorite racecar drivers.

Let’s guess whose method is best.

Yeah, I heard oil in a silver jug gives greater engine protection with better HTHS and MOFT. Especially if that brand has a sponsor decal on a race car that wins a few races.

 

[53' Stude]

15% is the API SP/GF6 maximum. This oil has

 

[4WD]

Marketing gets treated like a crime here. In the PVL world they have specs and “claims” … folks that dig deeper find that extended use lubes use better base stocks etc … Others act like it’s just a decal … That never changes

 

[4WD]

Got that right ^^^^^^

Mobil Super synthetic it is... Or Mobil Super.

Though it could be Toyota motor oil....

CNN sources have reported that it is allegedly and possibly filled by a Russian oil company with potential bomb shell information on big oil and their associates

 

[tyman]

Right?

 

[Accent Abuser]

Well this is interesting, “10X stronger against oil breakdown”...OK?

"*vs conventional oil from the '60s".

 

[svenson]

https://cdn.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/valvoline/EUR_Val_SynXLIII_0W30_MO_EN.pdf
how about this valvoline?

 

[ChrisD46]

Well this is interesting, “10X stronger against oil breakdown”...OK?

Same Valvoline EP that has been out for a couple of years now ...

 

[FTTSHO]

Has anyone seen the black bottle 150,000mi MaxLife anywhere but Meijer, yet?

I’ve seen it at a Walmart on the other side of my town. $60 for a 12 quart garage box. Didn’t buy it. I’ll wait till I see some reviews on Bitog.

But I haven’t seen one at my towns Walmart yet. I’ve also seen it on Amazon. It was $32 for a 5 quart jug.

I would love to try it out on my 4.3 Vortec though. If you know you know, but these early 2000’s vortex’s all seem to seep oil on the rocker cover gaskets and the front main seals but it never seeps enough to actually leak on the ground. Would love to try the new 150k Valvoline.