Hyundai/Kia Reliable?

[litesong]

Originally Posted by blupupher
For the 3x the price, I would hope a Porsche is more reliable than a Hyundai/Kia
I got my Elantra for under $13,000. I didn't know a new Porsche was only $38,000.

 

[blupupher]

Originally Posted by litesong

Originally Posted by blupupher
For the 3x the price, I would hope a Porsche is more reliable than a Hyundai/Kia
I got my Elantra for under $13,000. I didn't know a new Porsche was only $38,000.

I was not being literal in this.
But since you want it to be, it all depends on what your looking at.
The Elantra is a very basic 4 door model of transportation, but for comparison sake:

2019 Hyundai Elantra SE base price - $14,950
2019 Porsche 718 Cayman - $58,150

14,950 x 3 = 44,850, so closer to 4x the price.

But if you compare something like the Veloster N (Hyundai's high performance 2 door sport coupe), that starts @ $26,900. 3x that is $80,700
A 718 Cayman GTS Roadster is 81,950.
That is a "fair" price comparison and almost exactly 3x the price.

But I am not trying to put a Porsche and Hyundai in the same class, they are different vehicles marketed to different clientele.
I was just referring to the price/value/reliability side.

 

[willbur]

Originally Posted by blupupher
Originally Posted by litesong

Originally Posted by blupupher
For the 3x the price, I would hope a Porsche is more reliable than a Hyundai/Kia
I got my Elantra for under $13,000. I didn't know a new Porsche was only $38,000.

I was not being literal in this.
But since you want it to be, it all depends on what your looking at.
The Elantra is a very basic 4 door model of transportation, but for comparison sake:

2019 Hyundai Elantra SE base price - $14,950
2019 Porsche 718 Cayman - $58,150

14,950 x 3 = 44,850, so closer to 4x the price.

But if you compare something like the Veloster N (Hyundai's high performance 2 door sport coupe), that starts @ $26,900. 3x that is $80,700
A 718 Cayman GTS Roadster is 81,950.
That is a "fair" price comparison and almost exactly 3x the price.

But I am not trying to put a Porsche and Hyundai in the same class, they are different vehicles marketed to different clientele.
I was just referring to the price/value/reliability side.


Typically, when ppl talk about Porsche its taken to be the 911. It starts at $114k. Cayman is the intro model.

 

[Treadstone]

Originally Posted by Uphill_Both_Ways
Originally Posted by Brigadier
Your signature is fake. There is NO WAY in [censored] that a 2007 KIA is still on the road. No way.......
Haters gotta hate.


Maybe sarcasm?

 

[blupupher]

Originally Posted by willbur
Originally Posted by blupupher
...
But I am not trying to put a Porsche and Hyundai in the same class, they are different vehicles marketed to different clientele.
I was just referring to the price/value/reliability side.
Typically, when ppl talk about Porsche its taken to be the 911. It starts at $114k. Cayman is the intro model.

I am just quoting numbers. Read the last sentence in my post.
I have no idea what the hierarchy of Porsche is. I had no idea I was supposed to think of a specific model when talking about Porsche.
BTW, according to Porsche's website, the 911 starts at $91,100, not $114,000. If you try to belittle people, at least get the facts straight.

If you want me to post "typical" Porsche things, then I can.

I have no little man syndrome issues, no need to "impress the ladies", and am not in a midlife crisis, so have no need for a Porsche.

Better? That is a "typical" Porsche stereotype.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by blupupher
Originally Posted by willbur
Originally Posted by blupupher
...
But I am not trying to put a Porsche and Hyundai in the same class, they are different vehicles marketed to different clientele.
I was just referring to the price/value/reliability side.
Typically, when ppl talk about Porsche its taken to be the 911. It starts at $114k. Cayman is the intro model.

I am just quoting numbers. Read the last sentence in my post.
I have no idea what the hierarchy of Porsche is. I had no idea I was supposed to think of a specific model when talking about Porsche.
BTW, according to Porsche's website, the 911 starts at $91,100, not $114,000. If you try to belittle people, at least get the facts straight.

If you want me to post "typical" Porsche things, then I can.

I have no little man syndrome issues, no need to "impress the ladies", and am not in a midlife crisis, so have no need for a Porsche.

Better? That is a "typical" Porsche stereotype.

Most people do not buy Porsche because of that. Does that mean that people buy Hyundai bcs. they have no clue what is difference between vehicle and microwave?

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by blupupher
Originally Posted by litesong

Originally Posted by blupupher
For the 3x the price, I would hope a Porsche is more reliable than a Hyundai/Kia
I got my Elantra for under $13,000. I didn't know a new Porsche was only $38,000.

I was not being literal in this.
But since you want it to be, it all depends on what your looking at.
The Elantra is a very basic 4 door model of transportation, but for comparison sake:

2019 Hyundai Elantra SE base price - $14,950
2019 Porsche 718 Cayman - $58,150

14,950 x 3 = 44,850, so closer to 4x the price.

But if you compare something like the Veloster N (Hyundai's high performance 2 door sport coupe), that starts @ $26,900. 3x that is $80,700
A 718 Cayman GTS Roadster is 81,950.
That is a "fair" price comparison and almost exactly 3x the price.

But I am not trying to put a Porsche and Hyundai in the same class, they are different vehicles marketed to different clientele.
I was just referring to the price/value/reliability side.

Porsche's are actually very reliable vehicles. If you asked my to choose between used Porsche or Hyundai that I have never seen, same year and mileage, and drive from coast to coast, I would feel more confident in Porsche.

 

[wemay]

edyvw, you love to pigeonhole and stereotype people by what they drive. Give it a break already. I've owned and auto-crossed GTi, Corrado, Evo, WRX and Cooper S. Have also owned Corolla, Protoge, Accord, Sonatas and Santa Fe. Manuals, Automatics and Dual Clutch. Ive enjoyed them all and don't see myself as less knowledgeable, enthusiastic or passionate for owning one over the other.

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted by wemay
edyvw, you love to pigeonhole and stereotype people by what they drive. Give it a break already. I've owned and auto-crossed GTi, Corrado, Evo, WRX and Cooper S. Have also owned Corolla, Protoge, Accord, Sonatas and Santa Fe. Manuals, Automatics and Dual Clutch. Ive enjoyed them all and don't see myself as less knowledgeable, enthusiastic or passionate for owning one over the other.






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[willbur]

Originally Posted by blupupher
Originally Posted by willbur
Originally Posted by blupupher
...
But I am not trying to put a Porsche and Hyundai in the same class, they are different vehicles marketed to different clientele.
I was just referring to the price/value/reliability side.
Typically, when ppl talk about Porsche its taken to be the 911. It starts at $114k. Cayman is the intro model.

I am just quoting numbers. Read the last sentence in my post.
I have no idea what the hierarchy of Porsche is. I had no idea I was supposed to think of a specific model when talking about Porsche.
BTW, according to Porsche's website, the 911 starts at $91,100, not $114,000. If you try to belittle people, at least get the facts straight.

If you want me to post "typical" Porsche things, then I can.

I have no little man syndrome issues, no need to "impress the ladies", and am not in a midlife crisis, so have no need for a Porsche.

Better? That is a "typical" Porsche stereotype.



Dude- lighten up! -
I think your response does indicate you have a small man syndrome and you probably don't impress ladies! Nobody is belittling you.

 

[litesong]

Originally Posted by blupupher
...... the 911 starts at $91,100, not $114,000......
When I paid $13,000 for my Elantra, I saved $78,100 to $101,000. I unnerstant them there numbers, fer shore!

 

[litesong]

Originally Posted by edyvw
If you asked (me) to choose between used Porsche or Hyundai that I have never seen, same year and mileage, and drive from coast to coast, I would feel more confident in Porsche.
Yes, you should feel more confident, paying $78,100 to $101,000 more for a Porsche. However, other people feel confident, walking or riding a bicycle across America.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by wemay
edyvw, you love to pigeonhole and stereotype people by what they drive. Give it a break already. I've owned and auto-crossed GTi, Corrado, Evo, WRX and Cooper S. Have also owned Corolla, Protoge, Accord, Sonatas and Santa Fe. Manuals, Automatics and Dual Clutch. Ive enjoyed them all and don't see myself as less knowledgeable, enthusiastic or passionate for owning one over the other.

People buy Porsche bcs they are in midlife crisis.
People buy Hyundai bcs they think it is microwave.
I am just answering on stereotyping people who buy Porsche.
I drive too microwave, and there is reason for it. Same like there is a reason why someone buys Hyundai. But just bcs it is Porsche, and costs so much, does not mean that people are buying it just to impress.
In the end of the day, if there were no cars like Porsche, how would technology trickle down to Hyundai & Co?

 

[Skippy722]

Originally Posted by edyvw
People buy Porsche bcs they are in midlife crisis.


This cannot be further from the truth, and it is an utterly ridiculous statement.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by edyvw
People buy Porsche bcs they are in midlife crisis.


This cannot be further from the truth, and it is an utterly ridiculous statement.


Pretty sure he was being sarcastic, which was evidenced by the next line in his post

 

[Skippy722]

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by edyvw
People buy Porsche bcs they are in midlife crisis.


This cannot be further from the truth, and it is an utterly ridiculous statement.


Pretty sure he was being sarcastic, which was evidenced by the next line in his post

If so, I'll take my "You Tried" trophy

 

[litesong]

Originally Posted by edyvw
....People buy Hyundai bcs they think it is microwave.......if there were no cars like Porsche, how would technology trickle down to Hyundai & Co?
I love combination microwave-convection ovens the best. In truth Hyundai got better when they bought KIA, which had better reliability statistics than Hyundai..... AND Porsche, at the time.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by edyvw
People buy Porsche bcs they are in midlife crisis.


This cannot be further from the truth, and it is an utterly ridiculous statement.

Go back a bit and check my initial post.

 

[StevieC]

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by edyvw
People buy Porsche bcs they are in midlife crisis.


This cannot be further from the truth, and it is an utterly ridiculous statement.

Go back a bit and check my initial post.





Broken record.