Mine are the same, one comes on after 5 presses of the windshield washer fluid when the headlamps are on. The other one comes on after 10. It's just rare that the headlights are on and you use the windshield washer fluid 5-10 times in a row.
Engine Start/Stop Vehicles
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The old Malibu hybrid (2014ish) that pays the tax gets lower gas mpgs than the new regular gas Malibu that doesn’t pay the extra tax
the 1st year title plus registration can be an extra $400 as well.
Those of us with an old cheap hybrid that bought it for up front cost not gas MPGs were blind sided by the unforeseen tax increase in my case I would not have bought one of the cars in my stable if I had known the tax was coming
All this tax does is allow government to decide what cars you own since many hybrids don’t save $75 of fuel compared to the normal version of the car.
If you think the hybrid tax is foolhardy post that if governor Evers wants to support green tech to get rid of the hybrid tax
Not sure why an old hybrid has anything to do with a BEV?
Our state spends millions of dollars on lawsuits and enforcement related to “collecting” unpaid registration, fees etc.
The beuracratic costs are so high that half of fee collections are lost.
One would think if you actually want the money in the coffer to completely eliminate the mess surrounding the fee collection system from individuals and put it to straight gas tax. (There are only a few BEVs in this area, 3500 statewide not even worth messing with)
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I'll just point out that most auto parts stores do carry some starters in stock. There may be reasons for that. It isn't because they never fail.
I've personally owned 8 vehicles, and replaced two starters along the way. Start managing a fleet and your eyes will be opened...
You bought it because in theory it saved gas and money. But the money saved was money that the state spent to maintain the roads. Now you're upset because you don't get the free ride (or reduced priced) ride that you thought you were getting.
Government doesn't decide what you own, there are just incentives and disincentives to various options. You can do it regardless of whether there's a tax on it or not. Newer cars typically have better emissions than older cars and have more safety features. The government only controls you if you let it.
Starters are like fuel pumps in that a lot of the ones that are replaced are actually still good. Plus I wonder how many of the "bad" starters only needed brushes or a solenoid.
I got to ride in a friends Model 3 recently and I was very impressed by the acceleration of it. It definitely felt faster than my Mustang GT.
My hybrid uses a 50hp starter. No problems. Starts rapidly as engine turns over very fast.
Just wanted to add that 48V mild-hybrid systems can have additional benefits beyond the improved start/stop functionality:
https://www.greencarreports.com/new...-etorque-does-some-smart-things-with-48v-tech
I enjoy the feature. It works well on my VW and will not engage if I am using light brake pressure. If it doesn't stop at a light I can press the brake a little harder and it will.
It will also typically stop only once in the drive through, and will not stop if I have crawled for a while at low speed prior to stopping such as in parking lots.
I see no reason to disable it and wish I had the feature on my Touareg. Usually I will start/stop it myself if in line for food or to pick up my kid from school.
Remember the feature isn't necessarily to save you money or fuel, it is to save the collective amount of fuel burned while stationary. I distinctly remember excessive idling to be illegal in Germany. Start/stop simply automates the process.
You're young and naive yet speak with an air of knowledge and authority that your age and experience denies. I was the same way.
I'm one of the younger and less knowledgeable/experienced mechanics here. I've been wrenching for 15 years and persuing my Master's.
Humility is key to education. You can only learn when you think there is more to learn.
Mazda's i-stop injects fuel and ignites it to restart. How is it debunked if that's how their system works?
I bought it because the hybrid was a lower purchase price (thousands less) than the regular car, fuel economy had nothing to do with it (it only gets like 2mpg better than the same year non hybrid)
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I wouldn't consider it technology by any means as it's more of an idiotic design than anything else. A family member has a Ford Ecoboost and it defaults to start/stop every time it's started. Dunno if it can be permanently disabled, but I'd **** sure hope so. If it was my ride I would find a way to get rid of it.
Spend money to maintain the roads and you are from MA, those two things do not jive in Charlie Parkers kingdom.
The car that I am planning on buying after the first of the year has the S/S feature. It can be disabled with a switch on the console but must be done each time you start the car for a drive. One of the first things I am going to do when I get the car home is figuring out how to permanently disable it. The only reason that I can think of for the existence of that feature is the desire of the automakers to add a fraction of an MPG to their fleet averages to meet ever increasing CAFE requirements.
All I can say is, the SS functionality on our RX is flawless. Perhaps it is the manufacturer people should have a problem with?
Things like this are here to stay.
Flame suit on!
Things like this are here to stay.
Flame suit on!
Man, this thread makes me laugh.
It was explained differently to me before. The compressed mixture sits ready to be ignited is not the case. There's uncompressed air sitting there and a tiny amount of fuel is injected and ignited.
Man, this thread makes me laugh.
Yeah that could've been me today...
When I was car shopping in July and August of '19 after the death by water of my BMW, there were some 2017 Buick LaCrosses out there for only a little more than I ended up paying for my 2016. But . . . the 2017-19 LaCrosse has the auto stop-start, and it can't be disabled except with a $150 aftermarket part. I did not want to deal with that, no matter how seamless the transition from off to on might be. The BMW did it well, but that I could turn off and have it stay off.
I think that's a nationwide problem, it's why there's always talk of an infrastructure bill which both sides support in theory. The gas tax here is 26.4 cents a gallon, it doesn't really add up to that much when you have to pay high union wages and have guys standing around the work site watching other guys work.
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