Ecogard s241 Virgin C&P
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Some must be wearing devil glasses that make them say everything backwards. Don't play your LPs backwards.Wavy pleats are the devil. Read it in your book.
Zee09
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I'll keep correcting you tooLoL, yeah, it looks ok. I'm just returning some of the so called "humor jabbing". But you better check it for wavy pleats after use.
I'd rather you put me on ignore than try to twist up what I've said, because it doesn't really come across as "humor". It comes across as trying to claim I've made certain claims that I haven't made. I don't find that funny.No slander, all in good fun. If I didn't like you, I'd just ignore you.
Zee09
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I have so many that I'll never use grinLoL, yeah, it looks ok. I'm just returning some of the so called "humor jabbing". But you better check it for wavy pleats after use.
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Same design as a the STP S3600XL I posted a few months ago. Rock solid design. When Chinese filters aren't chinesium anymore and North American made filters are looking more americanesium these days with sloppy manufacturing.
Also if you sniff the media, theres a strong resin smell coming from it. Compared to synthetic media which are odorless for the most part.
Yeah, just like you implied I said "High quality" on torn Purolator's. You know as they say a taste of your own...
One's sense of "high quality" might be skewed by fanboyism.
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Zee09
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Thank you AdamNice work Jim. I see they still use Steele madcap’s. Nice photos and info
Okay, now I guess we also need to know what it smelled like.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Inquiring minds want to know.
$7 dollars & metal end caps sure beats the socks off of "fiber" end caps that TG probably employs. Nice pics.
The media on this Ecogard has been assembled and glued nicely. It is rated at 10k miles while a Tough Guard is rated at 15K. Any thoughts as to why? Is it the media density that controls filter life or the type of media? Thank you.
BrendanC
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someone correct me if i'm wrong, but its to do with the holding capacity of the filter. mileage ratings are a sensitve topic because 15k miles on a spotless motor with a high quality synthetic is very different than 15k miles with generic motor oil in a sludged up motor.
I'd say you nailed it exactly right there. Only other factor is marketing, you see if especially with Fram.
In a clean engine I'm certain a synthetic PG could easily exceed 10k miles.
Yes, the "up to" mileage use rating is connected to the holding capacity. "Up to" implies the best case scenario, so if someone thinks it can do the "up to" mileage rating on a dirty sludged up engine doesn't quite understand.
When Motorking was active here, he explained how Fram bases the "up to" mileage use rating based on the holding capacity - iirc, he mentioned a worse case of 1 gram of debris generated per 1000 miles for a typical engine. I'm betting a well taken care of engine produces way less than that, and the "up to" rating is probably more based on a typical "clean" running engine with less than the 1g/1K rate. Fram and other big filter companies most likely do some field testing to collect some real world in use data.
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LoL ... people need to read better and stop playing games and twisting things around is more like it. Just like you having a bad memory that distorts what you "think" I said 10-12 years ago.OMG! Is everyone supposed to hold hands and cry now?
Zee09
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Not doubting any of the spot on posts above but personally I think PG-EG are playing it safe and smart.
I don't like screw ups and I would over build the filter and under rate it to avoid liability and those that over extend things like we do here.
I'd make a 20K filter and list it as a 10k or 15k..
Today unlike yesterday the truth comes out.
You can't hide what's inside anymore.
Personally I wouldn't put the 15k rating on the TG and certainly not the 20k rating on the KN select... JMHO
