I'm confident that if oil change intervals happen at OEM specifications, the fleet wide effects is this change will be very close to nil.
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Mopar is revising OCI’s down.
But the problem is, most people don’t take care of their cars.
BITOG is literally the top 1% of oil users. I say this consistently.
The bottom 50% of car owners, don’t even know there is oil in their car. Let alone the viscosity or brand. This is why the DIY market is shrinking and the DIFM market is growing. Why dealers are doing free oil changes. Why they’re pushing leases and maintenance packages so hard. Why on vehicle telematics is a thing with the different apps and such.
Because people don’t maintain their cars.
All agreements of this type are force majeure. However it’s very unlikely they would get cut off. On allocation likely.
Well, there is only one oil with a widely accepted ability to clean piston rings...
But there are several (many?) that can keep them clean
Walmart was completely cut off by Exxon Mobil and Shell a couple months ago. Rumor has it Walmart stocked up big time before they were cut off. Whatever is on Walmart shelves should be what they have stocked up in their distribution centers. That is to say it should all be the original spec oil before this all happened and how they’re able to maintain their current pricing.
There's not much Supertech at our local walmart. In the 0w-anything grade. There's still their heavier grades and diesel oil.
Sure, but if people are concerned about the lower quality base stock substitutions potentially clogging rings faster then for me the no-brainer choice is VRP - even if the base stocks get worse, whatever magic additive they came up with will still be there to clean.
A couple of weeks ago I saw Ultra Platinum 5W-20 in a Walmart for the first time ever. I bought 10 quarts (in order to claim their rebate). It's dated 27MAY26, less than "a couple of months ago.," after the supposed cut-off.
Of course these bottles don't mention natural gas or Dexos, unlike the Platinum I bought last year.
Was talking to a friend who recently bought a new Atlas and my bitoger demon was trying to explain the advantages of 504/507 over the thin ones...i got a "I just don't care" reply.
I did notice at my almost daily runs to Menards for work, I always pass the oil shelves. The Quaker State Full synthetic "10,000 miles " speced 5w-30/20 oil was all gone a month ago and bare for the most part. 2 weeks ago I started seeing 5w-30 and 10w-30 bottles coming in with ZERO verbiage saying synthetic. So it is conventional oil and at the same price as the synthetic label they did not change as I scanned the jug. They still are getting shipments as of last week of the $22.98 Pennzoil 10,000 mile synthetic 5w-30 that were freshly stocked.
If OEMs are reducing their OCI mileage, then I wonder where Hyundai/Kia will put their rough service spec at with lower quality oil................OCI at 2,000 miles in a turbo car.
If OEMs are reducing their OCI mileage, then I wonder where Hyundai/Kia will put their rough service spec at with lower quality oil................OCI at 2,000 miles in a turbo car.
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Possible impact on GM Dexos oils.
https://ilma.org/ilma-seeks-emergency-relief-from-gm-dexos-program/
"ILMA asked GM to provide temporary flexibility for Dexos licensees directly affected by the disruptions. The Association’s request includes expedited review of temporary base oil substitutions, extensions for required testing and certification deadlines, and suspension of enforcement actions tied to compliance issues caused by supply shortages."
https://ilma.org/ilma-seeks-emergency-relief-from-gm-dexos-program/
"ILMA asked GM to provide temporary flexibility for Dexos licensees directly affected by the disruptions. The Association’s request includes expedited review of temporary base oil substitutions, extensions for required testing and certification deadlines, and suspension of enforcement actions tied to compliance issues caused by supply shortages."
Said boutiques are only “recommending for” API specs in the first place, so kinda irrelevant for them.
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My sister in law is coming up on 100k on her 2018 atlas 2.0 bought in 2017. She’s followed all dealer recommendations including 7k oil change intervals.
AFAIK the oil cap says “504” not “504/507”.
The car still runs like new. I scanned it recently and there were history codes with the cabin auxiliary heat water pump. But the cam/crank correlation difference was less than 0.1 degree. My VW understanding is this is a decent proxy value for oil maintenance health. The timing chains would wear more with worse maintenance and less with better.
Even the problematic Aisin transmission is working perfectly as she’s had them spill and fill it several times.
A lot of BITOGers forget that the folks on this site are probably under 0.001% of the population, and this quote encompasses almost everyone else.
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If it meets the performance requirements does it matter beyond a wife’s tale or some imagineering that someone is going to keep their car for 800k miles?
