They're drain claims are RIDICULOUS. 25k may be good with a bypass but not without. They really need to change that ASAP!quote:
Originally posted by Spector:
Well, there was a site on the Edmunds board on th sludge, I don't recall if Bob had one also. However, a few of the sludged engines used Amsoil and were denied converage as Amsoil claimed there was an engine defect that caused the sludge. Also, I specifically asked the direct jobber I deal with and he stated the same reply, defect in design Amsoil is not to blame. I suggest calling them directly for a reply to this But I am 99.9 % certain that they did not pay anything.quote:
Originally posted by mdv:
Spector, do you have anything to support this? I'd be interested in seeing it.quote:
Originally posted by Spector:
It didn't pay off in the Toyota sludge...
My real issue with this is that the dealers (for the most part) and corporate refused to inform Toyota owners that purchased from them that extended drains could be a problem. They continued to tote the 25,000 mile corporate line which to me (given the known sludging issue and that even Amsoil could not protect the engine), is misleading marketing and not living up to their so called high standards. They also continue to label their XL series as synthetic.
You said it, minimum......quote:
API as a reliable sourse of data that sets minimum guidlines for the oil my vehicle manufacture recomends
If you get M1 at 50% the purchase price of Amsoil, then go for it. In my position the delta isn't so much.quote:
am satisified with Mobil 1 at about 1/2 the price
I'm at 245,000 miles, (10K mile OCI's) and many, many folks are well over 200K miles on Amsoil. But there are many folks over 150K with anyoil as well.quote:
I would like the hear from Amsoil drivers who have over 150,000 miles using any Amsoil product.
Perhaps that one wasn't so far fetched. What about this one:quote:
Originally posted by **** in Falls Church:
>>>Makes you wonder if any of the "testimonies" on the amsoil website have any truth to them. Like the one where the guy pulled his heads after 80k and still has the crosshatch to them.
Well, as I recall, Mobil ran a BMW for over 1,000,000 miles on Mobil 1, and still had crosshatch in the cylinders. And a Mack diesel on AMSOIL had crosshatch on it with about 600,000 on the engine and 409,000 on the oil.
Get plenty of reports of fairly high mileage engines with non-synthetic that still have crosshatch.
Or, maybe, all AMSOIL dealers/users are inveterate liars---
92 Camry V6, 163,000 miles, Amsoil 10W30 since 1000 miles and a 7500 mile OCI. Original trannsmision using Amsoil ATF every 30,000 with a drain and fill.quote:
Originally posted by Eddie: I would like the hear from Amsoil drivers who have over 150,000 miles using any Amsoil product. I asked this question many months back and guess what no one responded. Maybe this time someone will step up. Ed Hayes