2023 Toyota Camry 2.5 oil choice

Winterpeg said:
This post has to be a joke."No 2.5 last past 90k on 20".
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Nope. But many of those engine had a TSB with various design or manufacture or component failures.

Wife doesn't warm up her car much maybe 30 seconds in below zero winters, and we are on a steep hill.
So engine is nose down and ice cold for 150 feet. Could add to it. - Ken
 
edyvw said:
You are still spreading conspiracy theories.
Others showed you that the same oil pump is used in markets where XW30 and 40 oils are used, but you still stick to ECU, which you never here managed to give us any proof. That was after you said that the oil pump is different, and when it was proven it is not, now it is ECU.
However, it seems that there are forum members that use thicker oil, and they are still with us. They did not died in horrible death from exploding engines.

So to OP, yes you can use thicker oil.
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Agreed. The Internet nonsense about the oil pump has got to go.

Along with the changing goal posts.
 
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ARCOgraphite said:
Nope. But many of those engine had a TSB with various design or manufacture or component failures.

Wife doesn't warm up her car much maybe 30 seconds in below zero winters, and we are on a steep hill.
So engine is nose down and ice cold for 150 feet. Could add to it. - Ken
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That would be hard on any engine.
 
ARCOgraphite said:
Nope. But many of those engine had a TSB with various design or manufacture or component failures.

Wife doesn't warm up her car much maybe 30 seconds in below zero winters, and we are on a steep hill.
So engine is nose down and ice cold for 150 feet. Could add to it. - Ken
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That'll do it...
 
ARCOgraphite said:
Nope. But many of those engine had a TSB with various design or manufacture or component failures.

Wife doesn't warm up her car much maybe 30 seconds in below zero winters, and we are on a steep hill.
So engine is nose down and ice cold for 150 feet. Could add to it. - Ken
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0W8, 0W16, 0W20, 0W30, does not matter.
I personally would install a block heater.
 
edyvw said:
If Toyota built that engine for their usual clientele, it can run 20W60. 99.99% of buyers of these vehicles can’t distinguish between Samsung refrigerators and vehicle. They will take vehicle to cheapest oil change place, many will get their friend to change oil, and Bill from down the street “always used Lucas 10W30 with great results.”
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I suppse it’s better than 99.99% of BMW owners who receive a free puppy upon purchase, so they have company when their car breaks down.
 
edyvw said:
You are still spreading conspiracy theories.
Others showed you that the same oil pump is used in markets where XW30 and 40 oils are used, but you still stick to ECU, which you never here managed to give us any proof. That was after you said that the oil pump is different, and when it was proven it is not, now it is ECU.
However, it seems that there are forum members that use thicker oil, and they are still with us. They did not died in horrible death from exploding engines.

So to OP, yes you can use thicker oil.
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No need to go thicker apparently. I'll reassess after warranty is up. For now, TGMO 0w16 it is.
 
gregk24 said:
No need to go thicker apparently. I'll reassess after warranty is up. For now, TGMO 0w16 it is.
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Whatever rocks your boat.
Just want to clarify that there is absolutely no evidence that thicker cannot be run.
We had this same debate, about the same engine, and yet, the same people come back with the same misinformation.
 
Toyota does say thicker oils can protect better, if the ambient temp is hot, you do high-speed driving or use it for Lyft or Uber. 0W-16 should work fine in “normal” driving. Reconsider a 0W-20 or even 5W-20/30 if you’re in the realm of “severe” service.
 
wareze said:
That'll do it...
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well I just got off the phone with David redline oil and I was asking him about if I was going to be able to get some zero w16 high performance oil from him and while it is available it is not in the packaging phase yet. I just guessed the notion of using zero w20 from his oil collection and he was set on it being okay. he had pulled up where the manual says if zero 16 is not available you can use zero w20. he explained it in a way to me that as long as you're not jumping crazy high on the weight differences you're not going to see much of a difference. he was talking to me about the BMWs to take 10 w 60 but they usually go down to 10w-50 or even zero w40 during the winter with no issue. I don't think there would be much of a difference between zero w16 and zero w20. heck in the summer I would be even comfortable running 0w-30 redline or Exxon Mobil or amsoil.

all this that I'm saying is not directed at anybody it's merely a thought. something else to note or think about is one of our newer sponsors has a product that can be put in a engine that requires a 20 w a 30w or a 40w to help clean it out. now that's not anywhere in the specification of the engine builder!? I have plenty of faith and their products and I think sometimes they only put one oil weight on the cap or in the manual just simply keep it simple for stupid people. many of you on here are much more resourceful than I have been able to post what owner's manuals look like everywhere else around the world outside of North America and it's the same exact motor for all intense purposes and the weight tolerance is night and day it's not even close.
 
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nthach said:
Toyota does say thicker oils can protect better, if the ambient temp is hot, you do high-speed driving or use it for Lyft or Uber. 0W-16 should work fine in “normal” driving. Reconsider a 0W-20 or even 5W-20/30 if you’re in the realm of “severe” service.
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Nope! Pump is electri… eeer uh, I mean it is different. Wait no, variable… yeah, it is variable, and won’t allow it. ECU and such. Car Nuts said. I could get into more detail, but you guys wouldn’t understand it. Trust me on this.
 
ATex7239 said:
Nope! Pump is electri… eeer uh, I mean it is different. Wait no, variable… yeah, it is variable, and won’t allow it. ECU and such. Car Nuts said. I could get into more detail, but you guys wouldn’t understand it. Trust me on this.
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PWM controlled mechanical oil pump. The outer rotor is controlled by a PCM-modulated solenoid.

Toyota sez up to 20W-50 is acceptable, and states so in the ASEAN/APAC manuals but not in the US/Canada due to CAFE.

One thing a 0W-16 is, its lower in VII - the oil blenders have to get a bit more creative using GIII/GIV bases to achieve the desired results.
 
nthach said:
PWM controlled mechanical oil pump. The outer rotor is controlled by a PCM-modulated solenoid.

Toyota sez up to 20W-50 is acceptable, and states so in the ASEAN/APAC manuals but not in the US/Canada due to CAFE.

One thing a 0W-16 is, its lower in VII - the oil blenders have to get a bit more creative using GIII/GIV bases to achieve the desired results.
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nthach said:
Toyota does say thicker oils can protect better, if the ambient temp is hot, you do high-speed driving or use it for Lyft or Uber. 0W-16 should work fine in “normal” driving. Reconsider a 0W-20 or even 5W-20/30 if you’re in the realm of “severe” service.
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I looked but could not find that in the manual.
 
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