Hey no doubt, I get it. But when these things are 60k and not even worth that IMO, I dont want to give them any reason to deny it. What if they ask for receipts? Do they even require us to keep receipts?
Then I think you should use what’s recommended and nothing else. I believe that by now you surely understand that this is not a technical requirement, nor is it a warranty requirement. But if you are that afraid of it, then by all means follow it because if you don’t, you will be the one person on earth whom they will ask you for documentation.
My owners manual states that a thicker viscosity is acceptable. I’m unsure as to what yours states but my vehicle is under warranty as well; no concerns here.
I will be using 0w16 until the warranty is over, after that I will probably use 0w20. I never got an oil analysis done, I may do it for my sport car at some point, but I doubt I would ever get one for the RAV4, I am quite confident in my oil maintenance schedule.
Whtas crazy is why did the axe the viscosity from 0w16 to 0w8 on the SAME engine just a year later? Doesnt make sense...
CAFE standards
Well this thread is going to be bunk ( at least for me... ) because the 2025 that we're getting... it now calls for 0w8 lol
Because they determined that using the oil would give acceptable wear under most conditions and would improve their corporate fuel economy.
If 0w-8 is the minimum then 10w-30 is the maximum. Again ESP 0w-30 is a good choice but a higher quality euro spec 0w-20 would also be on table. Mobil esp x2 0w-20 is an easy to get option.
I guess that makes sense, nothing says we have to keep receipts. I mean it says we can run 0w16 which is what I would most likely run, or even an 0w20 that would end up or be close to an 0w16 anyway, that even a test wouldnt be able to tell the difference.
From Australia and I forgot the name of the little suv that uses that engine but it's all about the engine architecture so it doesn't matter much. Toyota makes that 2.5L a25a-fks engine in japan and some get shipped to the US where 0w-16 and now as of 2025 0w-8 is the new minimum because of cafe bean counter rules and some get shipped to Australia where they can use 0w-16 to 15w-40 in those models which is what the grand highlander hybrid uses. But the engines are carbon copies with no more than some outer parts unrelated to the oil that may be changed to accommodate the steering wheel being on the other side. But the internals are identical. The octane is higher only because of the different octane measuring system used outside of the US.
Ah yeah, I cant use that chart for here, yea sure its the same engine but seeing as this will be under warranty until the day I get rid of it, the best I can do would be 0w16. Which according to the contradictory manual, is okay for sever service.
Warranty schmarranty.
60k isnt cheap for a car that isnt worth that. everything is expensive, I dont have money to just throw away, so I like to try and maintain adherence to what we're told to do.
Yeah IMO sever driving is over 65 and well most of our roads are over that, as you said - if not youll get ran off the road.
