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2022-2023 Toyota Tundra Recall - 98,600 vehicles for engine stall/failure issue
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You think thats alot for a timing cover? Ok.
I know...be snarky about it. Thanks for being helpful and making BITOG a better place tonight.
You may have missed the point. You said in your post "you give to much credit to business". This business, Tucker, deserves the credit.
The big three nor federal government at that time had no interest in providing these technologies to the public. Corruption? Cost? Who knows. One business had the innovation to bring the technologies to public at market price and the founder was crucified by the big three and federal government.
Nowhere did I say or even suggest that no companies have ever innovated for innovation's sake. Awesome for MB, BMW, etc but again you've proven my point. Some manufacturers (MB, BMW, Porsche, Volvo) were using these technologies but most weren't until they were forced by regulation. Had the rest not been forced by regulations it could've led to very slow adoption or possibly no standard adoption by the industry or at least not by some manufacturers. There are hundreds if not thousands of well-documented examples across all industries of companies not embracing state-of-the-art safety technology (for the time), not embracing state-of-the-art design and engineering practices, and not embracing state-of-the-art technology for the sake of cost control until regulation forces the industry en masse to do so. That was my only point.
"Business", collectively, across all industries and all sectors, I'm speaking in general terms, because regulations exist not to compel a particular company, but all companies, in general. Again, nowhere did I say or suggest no company has ever innovated outside of regulation. Go back and reread my post - I choose my words carefully and don't "read into it", there are not supposed to be any subtle undertones, just what I've said. Again, you prove my point. The Big Three had no interest, my point being you can't trust all companies to do the right thing, and that is why regulation exists.
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Here is the relevant engine to compare your video with.
Actually there are. They usually get tired of the Dealer service department environment, or working for others, and start their own business.
And should make someone question the sealer / system used.
I did not make your point, respectfully. Here is a more succinct way to state my argument:
Government regulation that builds upon best practices in an industry is building upon the expertise and integrity of people in that space. So taking the innovations of a safety leader like Volvo in the 1960s, to take one example, and using that to guide other manufacturers in the same direction, over time so there is time for adaption, is a prudent and good use of regulation that furthers the ends of making cars safer across the board.
Government regulation that substitutes its judgment for the industry in its entirety is a different matter. For example, no car manufacturer organically thought that using four cylinder turbos (see new GM engine) or six cylinder twin turbo engines (Ford, Toyota, Chrysler) were a good idea from the perspective of doing what trucks actually are built to do. Left to their own devices, the industry pretty much used eight cylinder gasoline and diesel engines. Simple, durable, strong, proven. Rather the government (actually, empowered federal and state agency employees, at the behest of the executive with little congressional ability to intervene) have mandated that climate gas is an existential threat, and so the entire industry must be turned on its head. This is an example of regulation compelling businesses and consumers to develop, sell, and buy products in a configuration that no one wanted. And one unintended but clearly foreseeable result is that these motors are not initially at least that reliable and the cost, risk, time, and expense gets placed on the consumer. We had a Honda with a J series motor that Honda installed VCM on in an attempt to meet Obama era EPA rules. Result? Predictable. Formerly reliable motor turned into a quasi recall campaign nightmare for oil control ring replacement. Only Honda has the real numbers, but the cost to consumers and the company was no doubt significant. Toyota is now dealing with a different technical issue but one rooted in the same underlying problem of being forced to abandon a proven motor that consumers wanted and that was well suited to use in a relatively heavy duty vehicle.
That is a long way of saying that regulation, like any human endeavor, when it is informed by humility and grounded in conversations and discussions with the impacted industries can do what you say and help raise standards at reasonable cost. However, when it is imposed upon people who object and their views are not appropriately considered, we get these types
Of situations. A better example is the coming de facto mandate to electrify 18 wheelers. But that is a whole other discussion.
Have a good day.
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Again, you are reading too much into what I wrote and choosing to see it as an extreme push for regulations. I simply said business can not be left entirely to their own devices and regulation often drives innovation. That's it. I agree, that regulations need to be balanced and reasonable, and many times they are not. Cool...I agree, but that doesn't mean regulations aren't needed because they do serve other purposes, sometimes imperfectly, but they serve a function.
Of course, they did. What do you think that vehicles are only driven in the US? 4cyl turbo engines are present since 1970's in mass production. The only reason why they were not common here is that gas is very cheap and the government does not follow inflation adjustments to collect taxes on gas, which should fund interstate systems, etc. That is why the interstate system is on par with lower tier third-world countries (not just any third-world countries).
If gas was $7 a gallon, V8 would be long gone.
By the way, auto industry spend millions of $ on lobbying. If you think that car industry, oil industry does not have a seat at the table, and does not push their own agenda in regulation, you really need to visit Arlington, VA, Chevy Chase, MD, Downtown DC, go to some nice restaurants, bars, and ask people sitting there what they do and why they live there.
Boeing is classic example where corporation managed to have too much influence over legislation, basically coming to a point of literally having language that it should regulate itself. You know the results.
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Let’s not bring $7 a gallon utopia from Europe OK? That place is full of socialist nut jobs that would love to take away everything you own and own you instead.
The state of the roads and highways in US has nothing to do with road tax not being adjusted for inflation, but everything to do with local and federal governments squandering that money on other projects.
The state of the roads and highways in US has nothing to do with road tax not being adjusted for inflation, but everything to do with local and federal governments squandering that money on other projects.
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Sure. I mean, yes, there is an argument.
So, tell us exactly where that money goes? Where it is wasted?
As you know, the price of materials, labor, and equipment has nothing to do with building the roads. I mean, who would think that 1993 tax in $ not % would not be enough to fund roads in 2024. My 7-year-old understands that mathematics.
Well said.
Plenty of pet projects that do not generate a return just create a drain.
Allocating anywhere form a quarter to a third d of the revenue away is quite significant don’t you think? Maybe we should ask your 7 year old?
So, to sum it up:
1. People walking: waste.
2. Education: waste.
Etc.
That is not waste. That is funding other underfunded projects that are in shambles bcs. no one wants to pay taxes. We have now ballot initiative to lower property taxes, which are nowhere high as in other states, and my neighbors think that fire departments, teachers salaries etc. are too much. Same then argue about quality of education etc. Solution? Take money from general fund to make up for it.
Pay to play. Nothing is free.
You claimed the tax simply cannot keep up with the inflation and needs to be increased and I showed you that it is being siphoned out for other things. Now you’re shifting to “but it’s for a good cause”.
Siphoning out money from the gas tax is simply misleading the voters and taxpayers. You, yourself were mislead into believing that the costs simply outpace the tax, where they do not.
Since the feudal times there were never enough taxes, ever. And more taxes never solved anything long term either.
Cost does outpace tax. It is simple math. It cannot be simpler than that.
Than you can add to that other redistribution. In the end, people want things that they are not paying it for. That especially goes for states that get more federal tax dollars than they pay, like let’s say, Texas.
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